Hi John,

> One out of six Dave?  We're gonna have to dump you down to pre-school.
Or send me to Wal-Mart. The flea beetles had a serious appetite this year to
say nothing of the deer, squirrels, and raccoons. Got truckloads of banana
peppers though.


> Check it out:  I like this guy who says science can't be value free:
It was silly to think it every could be after all humans do it.

> *Erich Jantsch* (1929­1980) was an Austrian astrophysicist.
> 
> In the mid-1960s his increasing concern regarding the future led him to
> study forecasting techniques. He does not believe forecasting or science can
> be neutral.
> 
> Jantsch's Gauthier Lectures in System Science given in May 1979 at the
> University of California in Berkely became the basis for his book *The
> Self-Organizing Universe: Scientific and Human Implications of the Emerging
> Paradigm of Evolution*, published by Pergamon Press in 1980 as part of the
> System Science and World Order Library edited by Ervin László.

Laszlo is another " hierarchy & levels" guy so his editing almost assures it
fits in somewhat.

Dave


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