Magnus to Andy:
> I don't know if self-perpetuation is much better. As I said to Ian in my
> last post, it only serves to keep the status quo of the organism. But status
> quo of what? What is it that the organic level adds to the soup, that the
> social level can use to do its stuff?

Only serves to keep the status quo of the organism... in the face of
adverse forces. Only? That's a hell of a lot more than what raw
materials do. Isn't that enough? Isn't that dynamic enough to
constitute a radical value shift? Isn't persistence of a static
pattern exactly what's necessary to support the evolution of society,
i.e. the meaningful interaction between patterns?

Andy
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