On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:40 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > [Platt] > > Is there something about Pirsig's description of the difference between > > socialism and free enterprise you disagree with? > > > > > > Ron: > > None whatsoever, my problem is with your interpretation of it > > which neglects the paragraphs surrounding that quote. > > About how he states that socialism is more moral than capitolism > > and his reasons why.He states socialisms only fault is that it > > tries to plan a dynamic function. He states the only redeemable > > quality of capitolism is the allowance for dynamic function within > > it's econimic system. > > > > [Platt] > > That "only fault" makes all the difference between the two systems, > doesn't it? > > > > The "dynamic function" is the "redeemable quality" what makes capitalism > > superior. > > > > Ron: > > As an economic system it is more successful, but it's not morally > superior. > > > > we do not agree. > > [Platt] > Nor do you agree with Pirsig: > > "What makes the free-enterprise system SUPERIOR is that the socialists, > reasoning intelligently and objectively, have inadvertently closed the door > to > Dynamic Quality in the buying and selling of things." (Lila, 17, emphasis > added) > > It's perfectly OK to disagree with Pirsig, until you say and show evidence > that > he allows an SOM interpretation of the intellectual level. Then you become > a > persona non grata. > > > Ron: > > ". From a static point of view SOCIALISM IS MORE MORAL THAN CAPITALISM. > It's a higher form of evolution. It is an intellectually guided society, > not just a society that is guided by mindless traditions. That's what > gives socialism its drive. " > > "the conservatives who keep trumpeting about the virtues of free enterprise > are normally just supporting their own self-interest. They are just doing > the > usual cover-up for the rich in their age-old exploitation of the poor" > > -Lila ch17 EMPHASIS MY OWN > > The same old quotes we keep throwing in your face Platt. > We can fuck around with interpretations forever but at the > end of the day yours just doesent hold water. > plain and simple. > > Your tired old rhetoric just doesent cut it. > [Platt] If you want to stick to a "static point of view" be my guest. I prefer a Dynamic view which sees capitalism as clearly SUPERIOR to socialism. I know at the end of the day you find Pirsig's rhetoric about the superiority of capitalism over socialism hard to accept. But, that's OK. I don't always agree with his rhetoric either. In this case, the evidence in favor of capitalism is overwhelming. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
