Ian, > > That says intellect pre-dates science & philosophy, not that intellect > pre-dates the intellectual level. No surprise that intellect is used > to rationalised society's actions. > I think in his response to being ask when the intellectual level emerged he said something to the effect, "That he couldn't see it emerging much before the time of Classical Greece" Which most historians and philosophers claim is the birthplace of science and philosophy. Later under further questioning he allowed that maybe it could have also emerged in early Indian religion/philosophy but it didn't take the SOM course. He then goes on to say:
>>The intellect's evolutionary purpose has never been to discover an ultimate >>meaning of the universe. That Is a relatively recent fad. Its historical >>purpose has been to help a society find food, detect danger, and defeat >>enemies." (Lila, 24) Then when, historically, did people first find not the need, but the physiological and particularly the mental where-with-all to actually change their behavior and environment to do something meaningful about fulfilling these needs? This certainly was thousand if not hundreds of thousands of years before Classic Greeks. So if the biological level emerged with the first twinkle of life, how is it that the intellect emerged and somehow existed without a level to occupy for thousand of years? It didn't. Hence my conclusion that it is highly probable that evolution of the brain in humans reached a point such that what separates animal social behavior or values from human social behavior or values is what we now commonly call the intellect. Therefore Pirsig's claim that the intellectual level emerged out of human society is wrong. The a minimum they emerged and evolved in parallel. Which means the whole MoQ level structure and moral relationship are also wrong. Dave Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
