On 2 Aug 2010 at 16:01, David Thomas wrote: Then when, historically, did people first find not the need, but the physiological and particularly the mental where-with-all to actually change their behavior and environment to do something meaningful about fulfilling these needs? This certainly was thousand if not hundreds of thousands of years before Classic Greeks. So if the biological level emerged with the first twinkle of life, how is it that the intellect emerged and somehow existed without a level to occupy for thousand of years? It didn't.
Hence my conclusion that it is highly probable that evolution of the brain in humans reached a point such that what separates animal social behavior or values from human social behavior or values is what we now commonly call the intellect. Therefore Pirsig's claim that the intellectual level emerged out of human society is wrong. The a minimum they emerged and evolved in parallel. Which means the whole MoQ level structure and moral relationship are also wrong. Hi Dave, Another way to look at the evolution of levels is to presume the inorganic level possessed the seeds of life which blossomed into dominance of that level. Likewise, human societies contained the seeds of intellect which grew to dominate that level. So, I wouldn't be too quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
