Hi Dave, If you saw my other post you know that I too have big problems with Pirsig. We doubtless disagree about what those problems are, but can agree that they are legion. Take care.
Go Hogs! Mary > > Hi Bo, All > > > This may deviate from Pirsig,... > > ....you also deviate from Pirsig's MoQ because it, as laid out in Lila, > is > his creation. But that's OK. As the subject line says "Bo's right". I > now > agree with you Pirsig's MoQ has fatal problems. The quote from the Paul > Turner letter is just icing on the cake and needs to be reposted: > > > Another subtler confusion exists between the word, "intellect," > > that can mean thought about anything and the word, > > "intellectual," where abstract thought itself is of primary > > importance. Thus, though it may be assumed that the > > Egyptians who preceded the Greeks had intellect, it can be > > doubted that theirs was an intellectual culture. > > This is pure rhetorical double talk by someone caught with his pants > down. > He was and is faced with evolutionary facts that threaten to discredit > his > entire system. Subtle my ass, it borders on intellectual dishonesty. > There > are literally thousands of essays and books by philosophers from > Aristotle > on down that deal with the "intellect" specifically as a separate, > distinct, > abstract type of thought. Intellect is a distinct QUALITY of thought. > > > You have always claimed that Pirsig's MoQ was screwed up and now after > 15 > years you have convinced me. Thank You. The only difference in our > positions > is that you think it is salvageable by your modifications to the > intellectual level and I don't think it's salvageable at all. But > that's a > good thing, at least for me. I learned a lot here, I no longer have to > beat > my head against the wall trying to understand a untenable theory, and I > can > move on. > > Thanks again. It's been great talking with all of you. > > Thanks Horse, for your stellar efforts. > > Dave > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
