WaveDave (I just can't forget your once pet name) 3 Aug. you wrote something that looked like a farewell to the MD and I regret that. These your two last post were much needed summaries of a decade of struggling with Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality and if my name were included in the thread it's because - IMHO - I've brought it back to Phaedrus original form. Not that the said form was complete, but it contained the most important part, namely "intellect as SOM" the introduction of the 3 levels before intellect poses no problem if only the 4th. level' "nature" is what it was meant to be.
In other words we have reached a milestone, no longer can the sub- set "intellect" devour the total MOQ by the outrageous claim that the MOQ is an intellectual pattern and - further - that intellect can be put right by rising on top of the SOM inside this mind-like construct. This is what hs ailed the MOQ from day one. What caused Pirsig to clown around with his own grand creation is a mystery, an even worse joke is the Quality/MOQ "meta-metaphysics" and that will have to be the next target. Too bad you see some totally irrelevant issues as the flaw, all this is made good by SOL's "strong interpretation". D2: > You have always claimed that Pirsig's MoQ was screwed up and now after > 15 years you have convinced me. Thank You. The only difference in our > positions is that you think it is salvageable by your modifications to > the intellectual level and I don't think it's salvageable at all. But > that's a good thing, at least for me. I learned a lot here, I no > longer have to beat my head against the wall trying to understand a > untenable theory, and I can move on. Dave riding into the sunset. Welcome back any time. Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
