[Dan] Looking to the four levels of the MOQ, it seems that as we move from the lower levels to the upper we move from the general to the particular. Just as every biological pattern of value is also an inorganic pattern but not all inorganic patterns are biological, every social pattern is an intellectual pattern but not all intellectual patterns are social."
[John] Surely you meant to say the opposite. All intellectual patterns are necessarily social, but not all social patterns are intellectual. Just as all social patterns are also biological, but not all biological patterns are social in the way we mean social. [Arlo] Hi Dan. I think what John noticed here, and I see it too, is that in your example you say compare BIOLOGICAL to INORGANIC (a DOWNWARD comparison), and then say this is analogous to SOCIAL to INTELLECTUAL (an UPWARD comparison). You say, "Just as every biological pattern of value is also an inorganic pattern but not all inorganic patterns are biological"... Downward. And then, "... as every social pattern is an intellectual pattern but not all intellectual patterns are social"... Upward. Its saying, in effect, BIOLOGICAL is to INORGANIC as SOCIAL is to INTELLECTUAL, and this is wrong. BIOLOGICAL (higher) is to INORGANIC (lower) as INTELLECTUAL (higher) is to SOCIAL (lower). All BIOLOGICAL (higher) patterns are also INORGANIC (lower) patterns, just as All INTELLECTUAL (higher) patterns are also SOCIAL (lower) patterns. Extended, all BIOLOGICAL (higher) patterns are also INORGANIC (lower patterns) but not all INORGANIC (lower) patterns are BIOLOGICAL (higher) patterns. And, all INTELLECTUAL (higher) patterns are also SOCIAL (lower patterns) but not all SOCIAL (lower) patterns are INTELLECTUAL (higher) patterns. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
