On Aug 16, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Andre Broersen wrote: > Arlo to Marsha: > I likened your elevation of "the MOQ" to the reality it describes as > ANALOGOUS to the elevation "the Word" into the God. > > I went on to say, after your knee-jerk distortion, that you could drop the > bible analogy and say its analogous to turning the map into the territory. > > Andre: > Hi Arlo, I have noticed the same reasoning with Bodvar (of course). He sees > the difference between, for example the map/territory or verbal/non-verbal > etc etc all as indications of the old SOM and therefore to be rejected from > the MOQ point of view. The reasoning is that a map is an inorganic pattern of > value, words are a social pattern of value. They are value, therefore Quality > (capital Q)... okay it is static, but Quality just the same and therefore > Reality. So to argue a distinction between the two is to swear in church, > fall back into the SOMish mind and be hopelessly misguided...a weak > interpreter. > > The map IS the territory. > > The word IS what it says it is. > > > Therefore, the MOQ, as an idea, as a written document, IS Reality...IS > Quality. > > > Krimel was therefore correct when he pointed out to Bodvar that cannibalism > and human sacrifice is not confined to Islam but in fact practiced among many > Christians every week as the central theme of their liturgy. > > 'If you ask a Catholic priest if the wafer he holds at mass is really the > flesh of Jesus Christ, he will say yes. If you ask,'Do you mean > symbolically?' he will answer,'No, I mean actually'.(LILA p 404, Alma Books). > > For in the beginning was the word and the word was god. The MOQ a religion... > NO! Reality!! >
Andre, Even 'Reality' is an analogue. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
