Magnus, Craig, Frank I'm completely dumbfounded (or maybe just dumb) how greed, lust or mother instinct could be construed as biological drives rather than social. I know this is probably Moq heresy, but I agree with Magnus.
The biological level is narrowly concerned only with mechanisms and reactions. It takes a social consciousness to care - to lust. Hunger is admittedly biological, but desire for more food (greed) arises only out of fear for the future self, that stems from a socially created and comparative self. Seems so plain to me. John On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > [Magnus] > > > Do you see anything [in Pirsig's 2nd level] > > about self-sacrifice for > > the common good like ants do? > > Ants don't "self-sacrifice for the common good". > > [Magnus] > > Much of > > our non-biological humanity is also > > biologically inherited, such as > > mother-instinct, compassion, etc. > > These are all biological examples. > Craig > > > > The fact that it's biologically inherited is totally irrelevant. Much of > our non-biological humanity is also biologically inherited, such as > mother-instinct, compassion, etc. > > Your MoQ may have solved some problems, but in the wake you have created > loads of other problems. > > Magnus > Craig > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
