Marsha: I think the difficulty is the deep seated pronouns that live in us all. Patterns do exist outside "my self". Static patterns of value represent all that can be conceptualized. Similar patterns (redundancy included to emphasize a point) exist across many human beings and across many generations of time.
On Aug 21, 2010, at 9:46 PM, [email protected] wrote: > [Magnus] >> We not only derive concepts, we also *experience*. >> Those experiences are still real, even before we conceptualize them. >> SQ patterns exist outside our concepts of them. > > > . > IMHO this is the fundamental controversy in the MD: > "the MoQ creates reality" or "we create SQ" or spovs are ideas > > vs. > "SQ patterns exist outside our concepts of them" > . > > > [Krimel] >> reality is fundamentally chaotic. > > . > Or perhaps we just don't understand it well enough yet. > > Craig > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
