On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Krimel <[email protected]> wrote: [Krimel] > I think the whole notion of good and bad is relative. Rain might be good > for > farmers and bad for picnickers. But the idea that whatever happened in the > past is, if not good then at least OK, goes beyond "illusion" into full > blown "delusion." We accept the past because we have limited options. We > can't change the past but we can change our opinions of it. Given that, the > healthiest option is to paint on a smiley face. We learn not just to live > with it but to like it. >
John: When I posit a "constructive" attitude, I'm talking more than painting a smile on because it feels good. I'm saying there is an attitude which causes engagement and action vs an attitude which blames, grumbles and retreats into a shell. Krimel: > Seeing the world as chaotic and purposeless is difficult. As noted people > recoil from it in horror. I can tell you it was not an easy transition to > make personally but it finally came on like a religious experience a flash > of insight that radically reorganized my entire conceptual continuity. I > don't know if I recommend it. But I don't see any way around it and > eventually I found a way to paint it with happy faces. Shit happens and it > is up to you to decide if it's good shit or bad shit. John: I see cynicism as disillusioned idealism. There's some expectation raised, and when it's not met we automatically retreat into a childish fit of pique saying - It's not fair, or even - there's no such thing as fair, it's all just random chance. I can see the logic of such a reaction, in overthrowing previously held error. But clinging to it strenuously beyond its usefulness will only put you back on the yo-yo pendulum swing. But hey, radically reorganizing your entire conceptual continuity sounds like a fun hobby. Try and do it every day. Or put another way, Kill all intellectual patterns... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
