Krimel said:
Right and what they expect jointly is that flipping a coin or drawing straws, 
is fair because it is entirely a matter of chance.



John replied: 
Yes, randomness is chosen by the players, because they expect it to be fair.  
But the root of what fairness is, comes from expectation of balance - the 
subjective ideas of the players - not randomness itself.  There is a random 
happening, that is considered "unfair".  Like in a bit of software programming, 
where the programmer uses a RAND function to achieve an overall objective, 
within the matrix of the program.

dmb says:
Oh, come on. You guys are getting way too fancy. The coin toss is not 
considered fair because of it's randomness. It's fair because both sides always 
have a 50-50 chance. It is certain that one or the other will win will the 
toss. The outcome is not random so much as unbiased. The tossing itself is what 
makes the coin's final position unpredictable and uncontrollable but it is 
being tossed at a certain time and place for a certain reason. In this case, it 
seems that randomness is 99% ordered. 
                                          
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