[Platt] To those with an open mind who would like to learn more about what DMB is talking about I recommend an article by Charles Birch entitled, "Why I Became a Panexperientialist" at:
[Krimel] Truth is I didn't get much farther than the first few sentence when I found this: "From my undergraduate years through my post-graduate years I was surrounded by materialists. These were scientists whose thought was dominated by the Newtonian worldview." There is really no need to go on. Almost all of the ranting a raving that goes one about this, especially from you, dmb, Ham and the like is ranting about the Newtonian world view. Science has moved well beyond this and given those who care to look, a breathtaking picture of probabilistic interaction of determinism without prediction. Newton's causal billiard balls ought to be long gone but they are not. They lingers as the unquestioned assumptions of most people because they apply well to our everyday interactions in the same way Euclidian geometry works for carpenters. Because of their enormous heuristic value most people rarely see cause to go farther. But the Newtonian world view is unsatisfactory. When it undergirds your system of beliefs, it produces the feeling of dissatisfaction Birch talks about. Personally I don't think a retreat into superstition, animism, panpsychic supernaturalism is the road out of the mess. I think instead the concepts derived from systems, theory, probabilistic models, chaos and the many things I have talked about over the past five years do a much better job, are more comprehensive, aesthetically beautiful, emotionally satisfying and conform more comfortably immediate experience. The MoQ as you, dmb and AWGI is nothing more than this retreat into the Mythos. I believe the MoQ shows us a better way: Out of a cacophony of sensory clatter (Quality) and we detect patterns of relative certainty (SQ) against a background of the uncertainty (DQ). We produce meaning from the meaningless. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
