Adrie, Huh? When and how came the flip from C to gravity? "Gravity is everywhere," but the "mechanism of gravity remains unsolved",but the "effects are known". That sounds like one well established, but messy pattern! And I do not get the 'eat the elephant' reference.
Marsha On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:39 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > Ok, Marsha, try to remember ;gravity is everywhere, and different > everywhere, in a boat, in your livingroom, in the garden,on a mountain. > nobody knows the mechanism behind it , only the effects are known, this > makes you a specialist like everybody else. > > and if you want to eat an elephant , you have to do it in pieces, so bit by > bit, it grows. > greetz, Adrie > > > 2010/9/2 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >> >> Thanks Horse, >> >> Much of this stuff, at least the tiny bit I can decipher, is interesting, >> especially the twist and turns. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:45 AM, Horse wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha >> >>> It probably depends on what you mean by a vacuum but I was having an >> interesting conversation with a friend of mine yesterday about C. >>> Apparently, from what I gather he was talking about, C is no longer a >> constant but is dependent upon the curvature of space - i.e. if there is a >> gravitational difference in one area of the universe compared to another >> area (E.g. a singularity) then there will be a difference in the value of C! >> The greater the effect of gravity the slower C becomes and thus time is >> affected. So in areas of high gravitation time is slower than in areas of >> lower gravitation. Weird? Maybe. The Standard Model has been in a bit of a >> mess recently and I don't suppose that this helps too much. >> >>> This also, apparently, has implications for the age of the universe as in >> the early stages of the universe overall gravity would have been much >> greater so time would have been slower which means, I think, that the >> universe could be older than has been assumed!!!!! It could also mean that >> as the universe expands and average gravity value decreases time speeds up. >> Which may also be a factor in the apparent increase in the speed of >> expansion of the universe. Maybe! All pretty mind-blowing but very >> interesting. >> >>> I'm sure this idea has been around for a while but I can't find specific >> references to it at the moment but I think there was an article recently in >> either New Scientist or Scientific American relating to some new ideas on >> the subject and how it relates to a reduction in the amount of dark >> energy/matter required to make various sums add up properly. Anyone else >> heard anything about this? Or am I becoming delusional as I get older? Which >> is entirely possible! >>> >>> Horse >>> >>> >>> >>> On 02/09/2010 07:58, MarshaV wrote: >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> It is my understanding that the usefulness of c is dependent >>>> on it existing within a vacuum, a vacuum which does not >>>> exist, is this true? Anybody know? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > > > -- > parser > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
