On Sep 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> Marsha quoted Pirsig:
> "Any philosophic explanation of Quality is going to be both false and true 
> precisely because it is a philosophic explanation. The process of philosophic 
> explanation is an analytic process, a process of breaking something down into 
> subjects and predicates. What I mean (and everybody else means) by the word 
> quality cannot be broken down into subjects and predicates. This is not 
> because Quality is so mysterious but because Quality is so simple, immediate 
> and direct." (ZMM, Chapter 20)
> 
> dmb:
> Not that Marsha is going to hear it, but this quote cannot be applied to the 
> metaphysics of quality or any other philosophical explanation. He's talking 
> about the difference between direct experience and the analytic process, 
> between dynamic and static quality. This here place is a philosophical 
> discussion group where you need words, ideas and keyboards. Simple, immediate 
> and direct experience is not a metaphysical system. The MOQ is. The MOQ in no 
> way prohibits the discussion of the MOQ or any other philosophy. It says that 
> DQ is pre-intellectual and outside language but philosophy is not outside 
> those things. 


Marsha:
My understanding falls differently.  And I do not believe that you really 
understand the MoQ.  You have your point-of-view, but I think it is rather 
shallow.   



> dmb:
> By the way, my accounting says this was Marsha's 27th post of the day - so 
> far. Let's add "manic" and "obnoxious" to the list of names, shall we?


Marsha:
Nice. Well done. That's exactly the kind of careful, responsible, non-evasive 
reply I was asking for. You've defended your statements with wit and skill, as 
always.  That's pure genius. Very respectable. Wish I'd thought of that.  


 
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