I wish you well, dmb, - Marsha
On Sep 25, 2010, at 4:41 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > > Marsha said to dmb: > I have said that the MoQ is epistemologically relative (sq) and ontologically > indeterminate (DQ), and that is what I mean when I call myself a relativist. > > > dmb says: > > The phrase "epistemologically relative" is contradictory. Relativism is what > you get when you don't have an epistemological position, when you think there > are no standards by which to test or measure truth. The MOQ subscribes to an > expanded form of empiricism. Pragmatism is a theory of truth and radical > empiricism is also an epistemological position. They both say there are > standards and tests for truth. Relativists say there are aren't. Empiricism > and relativism are approximately opposite. > > I don't really know what "ontologically indeterminate" is supposed to mean > but it doesn't matter because DQ is an empirical reality, not an ontological > one. James's term for it was "pure experience" and Pirsig calls it an event, > the cutting edge of experience and the primary empirical reality. The MOQ is > about experience all the way down to subatomic particles. Philosophy just > doesn't get any more empirical than that. > > So what you mean by relativism, apparently, is a logical contradiction on top > of a category error. Let's just say that's not exactly a brilliant or elegant > idea. And you've added contradiction and error to construct an idiosyncratic > definition of the central term in question! And I'm just talking about one > claim in one sentence! Whew! To say the least, that's quite a mess. > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
