So, Xacto,

Does this mean we can only assimilate true ideas?

If so, why do we have political parties at war with each other?  This makes
truth seems awfully subjective.  If that was your point, then I cannot
disagree.  Quality is above Truth, I think that's what Bob said.

Also remember, that W. James was a father of modern psychology, heavily
influenced by Darwin.  He is simply talking about behavior, nothing more.

And Aristotle, well he has mislead Western thinking for way too long now,
don't you think?  He did have a bewitching way with words though.  All seems
to make sense until you question it.  He kind of got stuck in his own
definitions (in my humble opinion, of course, but then again, I am the
smartest man in the world).

Mark

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:23 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> True ideas are those that we can assimilate
>
>
> validate
>
>
> corroborate
> and verify.
>
> False ideas are those we can not.
>
> truth happens to an idea.
>
> "Primarily, and on a common sense level, the truth of a state of mind
> means this function of a leading that is worth while."
>
> Ron:
> The above is by William James, and I think this is a well stated appraisel
> in fact, Aristotle makes a similar appraisel adding that the act of this
> pursuit
> the act of intelligibility is predicated on a betterness.
> This betterness is pleasurable and satisfying it is wonder-ful.
>
> In the spirit of the state of wonder
>
> is a lover of wisdom
>
> the pantheon housing the very best ideas
>
> the ones with the highest human values.
>
> Arisitotle went so far as to name this driving feeling of wonder
>
> as divine.
>
> I believe these ideas really help inform one trying to understand what
> B.Pirsig is talking about with the idea of Quality.
>
> It also greatly helps to super-impose the problem of the many and the one
> on top of static and dynamic Quality. Static being the many and dynamic the
> one.
>
> If Bob has'nt read "Metaphysics" in a while, I suggest book Lambda.
> Also I suggest reading the conclusions Aristotle came to regarding
> the one and the many.
> In his day, it seemed, Aristotle took the problem of the "one and the many"
> much the same way Bob Pirsig took the problem of "subject and object."
> One might even say they are the same problem.
> The many ways to interpet and understand one experience.
>
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