Dave, I may not succeed, but I am honestly always trying to find better ways of expressing what it is I am trying to say.
Marsha On Oct 5, 2010, at 7:04 AM, David Thomas wrote: > Hi Andre, > >> There is stability in the patterns as they denote repeated arrangements. >> Marsha, by using >> the 'ever changing' rhetoric makes a 'stable' discussion impossible by >> arguing >> for a >> relativism based on this 'ever changing'. This makes any discussion, any walk >> down the >> street, any talk of a tree ridiculous as from the first moment to the next >> the >> discussion, >> the walk (my body, my shoes), the street, the tree has changed. > > I was not following the discussion that closely but agree that stable > discussions with Marsha are extremely difficult. But when you say... > >> The 'properties' may change but the value is 'stable'. > > I would say the PATTERN is stable if we can recognize it even though all the > values or qualities that make it up are constantly changing. Clouds are > organic patterns of value which continuously change. They are a perfect > metaphor for all patterns because they remind us that all patterns of value > are "ever changing" though stable enough for our perception. Or not. In > which case the sky is clear. > > >> PS, I thought it was you Dave, who referred to Austin's 'Zen and the Brain'. >> I >> am chewing on it. >> Thank you for attending me to it. > > Your welcome. It is definitely a vigorous chew. > > Dave > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
