I shared this with Matt a long time ago, Mark, and Ham more recently, an article by John Durham Peters on Borges and Royce that I find fascinating, and the first good answer to Aristotle's problem of conceptualizing the Infinite that we've had in a couple thousand years.
http://www.borges.pitt.edu/documents/2501.pdf Enjoy! JC On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:46 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey John, > > I saw you mentioned Borges. One of my heros. He came and spoke at my > sister's high school graduation down in Argentina, many years ago. Can't > remember what he said, except it was weird. If you have any good links to > his stuff, send them along. > > Thanks, > Mark > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well Ham, It's four days later, and I'm just starting to catch up. So > no > > apology necessary! > > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Ham Priday <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > John, I gave you an inaccessible address for my essay, Becoming Aware. > > > Tack an 'htm' in place of the 'net' at the end. > > > > > > In other words, www.essentialism.net/becomeaware.htm should work. > > > > > > > "Should". Well, it does on one level, but I dunno on the other. The > link > > took me somewhere, but I need clarification, right off the top. Hope you > > don't mind me divining in and tearing apart... > > > > > > > > Conscious beings have a private realm in which all sorts of inner events > > occur that are not directly observable by others. > > > > > > the tSee? Right there. I'm not sure, but I've got lots of questions. > For > > is not everything that is felt and experienced by "me", communicated in > > some > > fashion -albeit ambigously and confusedly - to others? That is, my > > recognized being, has it's meaning and definition only to these related > > others. And thus any felt aspect of self-being, is mirrored somehow upon > > our aspects, in ways we don't intend or even fully understand. We are > > related in ways we can't fully imagine or intellectualize. > > > > So right off, I don't agree. > > > > When you think, feel, desire, judge, or plan, it is a proprietary > > experience > > that represents your individual point of view. > > > > ok, that I do agree. But it's a bit tautological, eh? Whatever "I" feel > > represents "me" and my point of view. Obviously. But that presupposes > our > > self-image, our sense of who "me" is and how that's been derived and > > created > > in a relativistic cosmos. It just assumes, instead of sticking to the > > analysis of where or how that self arises. I used to think of these as > > "meta problems" because it's easy to get caught in that ole hall of > mirrors > > of multiple levels when you're thinking upon self and being. > > > > This was part of that Borges scholar's point, btw, in analyzing Jorge's > > adaptation of El Mapa de Royce, his answer to FH Bradley and Aristotle's > > objections to handling these things mentally - infinity as a mathematical > > conceptualization as opposed to its rhetorical considerations - but > sorry. > > I digress. Disagreement is one thing, digression another. Disagreeable > > digression takes it to a whole worse level! > > > > > > It occurs in a private space that is your own subjective realm. In > > deference to the majestic poetry of John Donne, insofar as experience is > > concerned, it must be said that *every* man is an island. > > Plllbbbttttt--- to you and the solipsistic horse you rode in on. Me and > > John D and that guy marooned on an island but with a whole world of > > relationships in his head, all will testify that empirical evidence > weighs > > heavily against that notion. If any man is completely a-social, then I > (or > > you) simply have no knowledge of him, and for all practical purposes he > > does > > not exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry about the error. (It was way past my bedtime.) > > > > > > --Ham > > > > > > > > All is forgiven. Take your time. Answer me carefully. I'll wait > > patiently. I've got all night, I'm home, home on the ridge. Sigh. > > > > gonna build a fire and Phil-ah-sophize tonite baby! I've got the house > to > > myself and plenty of firewood, and Lu hasn't cut off the broadband yet! > > > > I will read the rest of your missive, and get back to you. > > > > John at home > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
