On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > Oh, I've taken notice. I love the internet. I still do not know the way > things really are, however.
Hi Mark, As I see my statement reflected back at me it seems too arrogant, and I wonder if I can make it seem less so. My habit of thought, which unattended seems to happen faster than the speed of light, is a tendency to reify self and phenomena. To 'know how things really are' is to know self and phenomena are not independent self and objects, but a flow of ever-changing, interdependent, impermanent, static patterns of value. Maybe that is a little easier to consider? My short-hand is 'not this, not that.' Marsha > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Mark >> >> It was just a suggestion to take notice. One need do the proper >> investigation and deciding on its importance for oneself. It may >> become just one more media used for mind control. Something >> to think about, maybe not. I unplugged from network and cable TV, >> and my use of the computer is here, and some research when a >> question or topic calls for it. >> >> Freedom is knowing the way things really are and not to get too >> attached to the way they appear. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:05 PM, 118 wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha, >>> Net neutrality?, and interesting concept, let's explore. >>> >>> Doesn't sound like you are being neutral about it, sounds like you are >>> taking sides. >>> >>> The US postal service is supposed to be neutral, I am having a hard time >>> with my mail delivery recently. Where does the internet infrastructure >> come >>> from? It is a God given right, does it grow on trees? People make >> things >>> grow, people are not neutral. >>> >>> Is the FCC neutral? Doesn't seem so to me. To extend the analogy, is >> the >>> EPA neutral? What about political neutrality, perhaps that is where we >>> should start. >>> >>> One must live in this system with its imperfections. I am your side in >>> terms of freedom of access, but as Ian said nothing is free. It is the >>> subversive control in the name of freedom that I find annoying. >>> >>> Just my opinion, >>> Mark >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:18 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Already gone.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nothing is "free" Marsha. >>>>> Second link in this post is relevant (article from The Atlantic) >>>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=3478 >>>>> Ian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:56 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What is this about? >>>>>> >>>>>> When we log onto the Internet, we take a lot for granted. We assume >>>> we'll be able to access any Web site we want, whenever we want, at the >>>> fastest speed, whether it's a corporate or mom-and-pop site. We assume >> that >>>> we can use any service we like -- watching online video, listening to >>>> podcasts, sending instant messages -- anytime we choose. What makes all >>>> these assumptions possible is Net Neutrality. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What is Net Neutrality? >>>>>> >>>>>> Net Neutrality is the guiding principle that preserves the free and >> open >>>> Internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Net Neutrality means that Internet service providers may not >>>> discriminate between different kinds of content and applications online. >> It >>>> guarantees a level playing field for all Web sites and Internet >>>> technologies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Net Neutrality is the reason the Internet has driven economic >>>> innovation, democratic participation and free speech online. It protects >> the >>>> consumer's right to use any equipment, content, application or service >>>> without interference from the network provider. With Net Neutrality, the >>>> network's only job is to move data -- not to choose which data to >> privilege >>>> with higher quality service. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> http://www.savetheinternet.com/frequently-asked-questions?gclid=COeFqfqAwaQCFdJL5Qodtxj-iw >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
