How about:   

Not this, not that, but Quality/Emptiness/Entanglement.   




On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:05 AM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, 118 wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha,
>> 
>> Oh, I've taken notice.  I love the internet.  I still do not know the way
>> things really are, however.
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> As I see my statement reflected back at me it seems too arrogant,
> and I wonder if I can make it seem less so.   
> 
> My habit of thought, which unattended seems to happen faster 
> than the speed of light, is a tendency to reify self and phenomena.  
> To 'know how things really are' is to know self and phenomena are 
> not independent self and objects, but a flow of ever-changing, 
> interdependent, impermanent, static patterns of value.  
> 
> Maybe that is a little easier to consider?  My short-hand is 
> 'not this, not that.'   
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> It was just a suggestion to take notice.  One need do the proper
>>> investigation and deciding on its importance for oneself.  It may
>>> become just one more media used for mind control.  Something
>>> to think about, maybe not.  I unplugged from network and cable TV,
>>> and my use of the computer is here, and some research when a
>>> question or topic calls for it.
>>> 
>>> Freedom is knowing the way things really are and not to get too
>>> attached to the way they appear.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:05 PM, 118 wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>> Net neutrality?, and interesting concept, let's explore.
>>>> 
>>>> Doesn't sound like you are being neutral about it, sounds like you are
>>>> taking sides.
>>>> 
>>>> The US postal service is supposed to be neutral, I am having a hard time
>>>> with my mail delivery recently.  Where does the internet infrastructure
>>> come
>>>> from?  It is a God given right, does it grow on trees?  People make
>>> things
>>>> grow, people are not neutral.
>>>> 
>>>> Is the FCC neutral?  Doesn't seem so to me.  To extend the analogy, is
>>> the
>>>> EPA neutral?  What about political neutrality, perhaps that is where we
>>>> should start.
>>>> 
>>>> One must live in this system with its imperfections.  I am your side in
>>>> terms of freedom of access, but as Ian said nothing is free.  It is the
>>>> subversive control in the name of freedom that I find annoying.
>>>> 
>>>> Just my opinion,
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:18 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Already gone....
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nothing is "free" Marsha.
>>>>>> Second link in this post is relevant (article from The Atlantic)
>>>>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=3478
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:56 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is this about?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When we log onto the Internet, we take a lot for granted. We assume
>>>>> we'll be able to access any Web site we want, whenever we want, at the
>>>>> fastest speed, whether it's a corporate or mom-and-pop site. We assume
>>> that
>>>>> we can use any service we like -- watching online video, listening to
>>>>> podcasts, sending instant messages -- anytime we choose. What makes all
>>>>> these assumptions possible is Net Neutrality.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is Net Neutrality?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Net Neutrality is the guiding principle that preserves the free and
>>> open
>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Net Neutrality means that Internet service providers may not
>>>>> discriminate between different kinds of content and applications online.
>>> It
>>>>> guarantees a level playing field for all Web sites and Internet
>>>>> technologies.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Net Neutrality is the reason the Internet has driven economic
>>>>> innovation, democratic participation and free speech online. It protects
>>> the
>>>>> consumer's right to use any equipment, content, application or service
>>>>> without interference from the network provider. With Net Neutrality, the
>>>>> network's only job is to move data -- not to choose which data to
>>> privilege
>>>>> with higher quality service.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www.savetheinternet.com/frequently-asked-questions?gclid=COeFqfqAwaQCFdJL5Qodtxj-iw
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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