Hello everyone On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:56 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Dan Glover wrote: > >> Hello everyone >> >> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:39 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Andre Broersen wrote: >>> >>>> Marsha to Andre: >>>> >>>> Maybe no more an authority than anyone else that has read ZMM and LILA. Or >>>> do claim that your judgements are privileged above others for some reason. >>>> >>>> Andre: >>>> I used the term 'authority' because you used it. My 'judgements' are based >>>> on the >>>> Annotations in LC (which clarify specific parts of ZMM and LILA), >>>> specifically >>>> annotations 129,130,131,132,133 and 135. >>>> >>>> When you read them carefully there is very little room for 'personal >>>> judgements' nor >>>> 'interpretations' nor 'personal opinions'. They are pretty straightforward >>>> comments/ >>>> clarifications/observations/judgements from the man whose MOQ we are >>>> discussing here. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Marsha: >>> Your 'judgements' are based on your 'interpretations' of annotations >>> 129,130,131,132,133 and 135. >>> It is also your 'opinion' that they are "pretty straightforward >>> comment/clarifications/observations/judgements." >>> Your 'opinion' also presumes RMP'S communications skills are absolute and >>> perfect. I do not believe >>> he has claimed such an infallible skill. >>> >>> DanG was lucky enough to be able to ask RMP for clarification based on his >>> confusion. The rest >>> of us, with different questions, have not been so fortunate. So while you >>> may be happy with your >>> interpretation of the LC annotations, they may not address questions >>> considered by others. So >>> your posts sound to me mostly condescending gibberish based on illusion. >> >> Hi Marsha >> >> I've always believed that we make our own luck. LILA'S CHILD was a lot >> of work, especially for someone with my background. I have no formal >> education to speak of. And the idea for LC wasn't mine to begin >> with... Bodvar Skutvik talked me into it. But once i started, I saw >> the value there and put as much time into the project as was >> practical. Actually, I neglected other areas of my life in order to >> pursue it so in a sense what I did wasn't practical at all. > > Marsha: > Your great sacrifice and accomplishment has been acknowledge > many times in this forum. I have read LC and consulted it many > times. Nice job!
Dan: Sarcasm doesn't become you. > > >> >> I think Robert Pirsig's annotations are good touching stones to keep >> in mind when it comes to the MOQ. And yes, another person would have >> asked different (and most probably) better questions. I asked several >> people to look over the annotations. But no one seemed to have any >> ideas at the time. Magnus did send me an email but honestly his >> comments didn't make sense in the context of the MOQ. They still >> don't. >> >> You may not like Andre's style but so far as I can see, his comments >> are spot on. I appreciate it when people like Andre, Paul Turner, >> David Buchanan, Horse, and other thinkers find value in LILA'S CHILD. >> Thank you all. But as far as me being lucky? No. There is no luck >> involved. Just plain hard work and persistence. > > Marsha: > You may think Andre's comments are "spot on". That's your opinion. > I just don't think that the understanding of the MoQ can end with the LC, not > Andre's interpretation, and not even your interpretations of the annotations > as the LC's author. For all the questions you asked there are many you > didn't. Maybe you can concede that much. And since it's publications maybe > many new questions have arisen. I hate to see the MoQ limited by the few > questions that made it into your book. I'd like to probe the MoQ deeply, and > I will not accept that all answers have already be established. Dan: I used to enjoy reading your posts, Marsha. No more. All I see is evasiveness and vindictiveness. If you really want to probe the MOQ deeply, why are you such a b about it? Don't worry about answering me. I am done with this discussion. Thanks for nothing Dan > > Thanks again for hard work and persistence. > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
