I will maintain my position, as i took earlier, i called you very intelligent and decoherent in an alternating pattern. this remains, you are not a liar , but you should work on the diffraction,stay coherent,.
behaving is not in my intrest, but in your own intrest, we can be your converstaionpartner , but not your mental coach. greetz, Adrie 2010/10/18 118 <[email protected]> > Hi Andrie, > > Cynical and distrustful as always. Now, it does not matter much to those > in > this forum, but yes, I did go to Hawkins' lectures while I was getting my > Ph.D at Imperial College. He would drop by now and again to a eager > audience (of which I was one). Perhaps you haven't heard of the Imperial > College of Science Technology and Medicine on the other side of the pond in > London. Considered the top technological college in Europe, ranked in the > top ten universities in the world, on par with Caltech, MIT, Harvard, > Oxford, and whatever university Belgium can boast of. Did my thesis > defense > at Oxford under H.A.O Hill and John Albery. These names may not mean much > to you but they are leaders in the fields of physical chemistry and > inorganic biochemistry. Hmmm.. still dubious? Look it up, I was there > starting in 1987 finishing in 1990, on a fast track. Look at the class of > 1990, I was the only Ph.D. in Biotechnology that year. Name is Mark. > > OK, enough for trying to get some respect, I know it isn't coming, doesn't > matter except for being called a liar. It seems to me that you are manning > his helpdesk, are you on the payroll? Couldn't pay you enough in my > opinion. > > Oh, and please, I want nothing more than your interaction, so I will > behave. > > Cheers, > Mark > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:01 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > I am not your enemy , Mark, and the distortion was wrong, because it is > > wrong to set off on something that is not correct > > from the beginning, better to tell you now. > > > > The expression on his face is called a sardonic laughter, induced by his > > disease, its the laugh of someone with a tetanosinfection. > > Pff, disproval of god, well, i think Hawking mentioned something like, > "in > > my calculations there is no place for a creator". > > This is his opinion, not mine. > > If you have a problem with that, write him a letter, i do not handle his > > helpdesk. > > > > I think the only lecture you went to with Hawking, are these on youtube. > > Stay consistent if you like further interaction, Mark. > > > > 2010/10/17 118 <[email protected]> > > > > > OK, so I am being accused of distortion. Fine. It's good to have an > > > enemy. > > > > > > If what you guys are suggesting is an attitude of humility and > reverence, > > > then I must add that I have been to lectures presented by Hawkins. I > can > > > tell you that the expression on his face is one of arrogance and > > disdain... > > > > > > There was in interview with the coauthor a few weeks ago on NPR or some > > > affiliate. There is no suggestion of humility there either. My way or > > the > > > highway. In fact the suggestion was of the disproval of God. Now > > Andrie, > > > from reading the book, would you say this is correct? > > > > > > All in good fun, > > > Mark > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:32 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Nope, John, its not a carefull searching out , or sorting out, i did > > read > > > > the grand design, and he was conflicting the context. > > > > > > > > "We shall attempt", is correct. And Hawking will be the last to say > > that > > > it > > > > is all figured out, "we shall attempt." > > > > > > > > Its useless to work with distorted material, John, there is no point > in > > > it. > > > > Been reading back some archives, Mauritius caught my attention, you > > > tossed > > > > it, as an aside. > > > > No , i don't think so, i don't need to catch you or Mark, i travelled > > the > > > > opposite island of Mauritius many times, Reunion, isle de la > > > > reunion,..I always went to a place called Manapany-Les -Bains, if you > > > want > > > > to google it,very nice place to do big game fishing. > > > > > > > > So from there i went to Mauritius many times, so if you like points > of > > > > congruence to talk about , they are there, even in this , even in the > > > > answer > > > > you gave to me about > > > > the value's of the bible or the answer you gave on 7th day > > adventism-,it > > > is > > > > not because i do not comment on something that i do not think about > it, > > > > mind > > > > this , i did not in any way act to ridiculise your answers.Or to > > distort > > > > them as given. > > > > > > > > So there is no catch to do, no nice catch,..i was reading the > > interaction > > > > Dan, John, to use some of your words, if you allow me > > > > Their highway, my lowway, etc, ..this is my proposal, "the road > > ahead > > > of > > > > us", our road , the solid road. > > > > As a consideration, merely. > > > > > > > > Greetz, Adrie, the devils own > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/10/17 John Carl <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Nice catch Adrie, > > > > > > > > > > Because I was about to go all ballastic on the fact that "42" is a > > > > superior > > > > > answer to the grand design, simply because it means we haven't got > > the > > > > > cosmos figured out and the only answer is the continual seeking. > > > > > > > > > > But your careful searching out "we shall attempt" blows that one > out > > of > > > > the > > > > > water. Good for you. (And Dr. Hawking) > > > > > > > > > > Reverend John > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 7:32 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER < > > [email protected] > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As we promise in our opening chapter, unlike the > > > > > > answer to the Ultimate Question of Life given in the > *Hitchhiker’s > > > > Guide > > > > > to > > > > > > the Galaxy*, the answer we provide in *The Grand Design* is not, > > > > simply, > > > > > > "42." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Compared carefully with the original line, it is not simply a > work > > of > > > > > > cut/copy paste, it is re-engineered > > > > > > serving the purpose of distorting the original sentence. > > > > > > Things are left out and the context/content is distorted. > > > > > > Even if it is done on a purpose,...then You , Mark ,are not > capable > > > of > > > > > > this,this is in the backgroundscenery of the postinglist-handed > > over > > > > > > realtered material. Re-editing like this is not acceptable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Hawking-(literally), the grand design. > > > > > > "This is the ultimate question of life, the universe and > > everything. > > > > > > We shall attempt to answer it in this book. > > > > > > Unlike the answer given in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, > > ours > > > > > won't > > > > > > be simply '42'", end quote. > > > > > > > > > > > > He wrote , " we shall attempt", not the answer we provide. > > > > > > > > > > > > Coherence , Mark, coherence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/10/17 118 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like the answer is not 42. This coming from the Grand > > Wizard > > > > > > > himself, > > > > > > > see below. Sorry to burst your bubble. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Editorial Reviews > > > > > > > Amazon.com Review > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking on The Grand Design > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can we understand the world in which we find ourselves? > Over > > > > twenty > > > > > > > years ago I wrote *A Brief History of Time*, to try to explain > > > where > > > > > the > > > > > > > universe came from, and where it is going. But that book left > > some > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > questions unanswered. Why is there a universe--why is there > > > something > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > than nothing? Why do we exist? Why are the laws of nature what > > they > > > > > are? > > > > > > > Did > > > > > > > the universe need a designer and creator? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was Einstein’s dream to discover the grand design of the > > > universe, > > > > a > > > > > > > single theory that explains everything. However, physicists in > > > > > Einstein’s > > > > > > > day hadn’t made enough progress in understanding the forces of > > > nature > > > > > for > > > > > > > that to be a realistic goal. And by the time I had begun > writing > > *A > > > > > Brief > > > > > > > History of Time*, there were still several key advances that > had > > > not > > > > > yet > > > > > > > been made that would prevent us from fulfilling Einstein’s > dream. > > > But > > > > > in > > > > > > > recent years the development of M-theory, the top-down approach > > to > > > > > > > cosmology, and new observations such as those made by > satellites > > > like > > > > > > > NASA’s > > > > > > > COBE and WMAP, have brought us closer than ever to that single > > > > theory, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > to being able to answer those deepest of questions. And so > > Leonard > > > > > > Mlodinow > > > > > > > and I set out to write a sequel to *A Brief History of Time* to > > > > attempt > > > > > > to > > > > > > > answer the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and > > Everything. > > > > The > > > > > > > result is *The Grand Design*, the product of our four-year > > effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In *The Grand Design* we explain why, according to quantum > > theory, > > > > the > > > > > > > cosmos does not have just a single existence, or history, but > > > rather > > > > > that > > > > > > > every possible history of the universe exists simultaneously. > We > > > > > question > > > > > > > the conventional concept of reality, posing instead a > > > > "model-dependent" > > > > > > > theory of reality. We discuss how the laws of our particular > > > universe > > > > > are > > > > > > > extraordinarily finely tuned so as to allow for our existence, > > and > > > > show > > > > > > why > > > > > > > quantum theory predicts the multiverse--the idea that ours is > > just > > > > one > > > > > of > > > > > > > many universes that appeared spontaneously out of nothing, each > > > with > > > > > > > different laws of nature. And we assess M-Theory, an > explanation > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > laws > > > > > > > governing the multiverse, and the *only* viable candidate for a > > > > > complete > > > > > > > "theory of everything." As we promise in our opening chapter, > > > unlike > > > > > the > > > > > > > answer to the Ultimate Question of Life given in the > > *Hitchhiker’s > > > > > Guide > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the Galaxy*, the answer we provide in *The Grand Design* is > not, > > > > > simply, > > > > > > > "42." > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > parser > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > Archives: > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > parser > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > parser > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
