For all those who look askance at quotations taken out of context, a
practice DMB himself has railed against in another context, I invite them to
read the complete article at:

http://is2.lse.ac.uk/IanAngell/papers/First%20Mistake/Religion.htm

Then I think you will get an entirely different perspective on the author's
motivation than put forth by DMB below. Perhaps the key sentence in the
article is the premise that scientists "don't seem to realize that the
scientific method is limited by paradox, even in Physics -- science's
backyard."
I would go further and state that the entire edifice of "critical thinking"
is likewise limited, a proposition that gets additional support in the
preface to the author's book, "Science's First Mistake --Delusions in
Pursuit of Theory"  Much of interest there, including reinforcement of
Pirsig's doctrine that the subject-object division provides a warped view of
reality

Platt





On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:14 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Ian said:
> ...Like I said Adrie, in what way, where do you get that idea from - his
> penultimate paragraph? ... In what way is Ian Angell's home page "religious
> fanaticism" Adrie ?!?!
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> "This motley crew of smug self-professed humanists was intent on disgracing
> the much-loved Christmas institution, in much the same way a Black Mass
> profanes the Eucharist. How they must have chuckled at their cleverness...
> Virtuous in their indignation against religion, they set about offending
> every Christian in sight. Certain of their own faith in science, these
> contemptuous and contemptible bigots thought nothing of trampling on the
> beliefs of others. Such is the intellectual imperialism of scientism – a
> prevalent and predominant attitude among those who dogmatically project the
> scientific method as the one and only true way of acquiring knowledge about
> reality and the nature of things. ... Indeed, the hubris that comes with an
> unquestioned belief in scientific method, particularly when it is targeted
> at social, political, commercial, and even religious concerns is an accident
> waiting to happen. ...It’s time to nail the big lie of the last three
> centuries, and stop this obsession with tidy methodical ‘rational’
> solutions. ‘Understanding through scientific theory, and applied via its
> methods’ does not place us in control of human destiny. Indeed, there is no
> such thing as ‘understanding’, only mere description through observation …
> and observation is itself a delusion steeped in paradox. Both authors must
> admit it came as quite a shock to them, both agnostics, that the words of a
> nineteenth century hymn should resonate so well with their thinking:
> Immortal, Invisible, God only wise. In light inaccessible hid from our eyes.
> (Hymns of Christ and the Christian Life, Walter C. Smith.)"
>
>
> That's where Adrie go the idea, Ian. And if you don't recognize the
> religious motive behind this attack or the childish denigration used to
> mount that attack, then you're not just tone-deaf, you're also blind and
> numb as well. I mean, it's just so obvious. How can you not see it? Just
> read the quoted except out loud and listen to yourself. It should be very
> clear that the author hates science because it threatens his faith.
>
> Balance, my ass.
>
>
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