Andre, Dave, I would be very interested to read what both of you have to say on the matter of Ants explanation. I do not posess a copy of Ants thesis. I would be most interested as to the context. The comment originated with Dan's response Andre, but since you mention it I do believe remembering a quote of Ant's posted on the subject. I understand Dans reasons, or I atleast think I do. But in the spirit of Daves statement of keeping our eye on the ball, and not allowing our tools to dominate our thoughts, I believe is the main point of what I'm attempting to discuss.
I probably should not write down why I believe some hold, rather doggedly to the statement that Dynamic Quality is unknowable and indefineable and to the drawn conculsion from that statement that it is meaningless to try. In my opinion one can't, no matter how hard they try to reduce it to one whole complete concept, yet, I get the feeling that THAT is exactly the kind of thing going on when the idea of DQ is defended in such a way. Also, I feel the neti, neti, explanation the "not this" not that" feeds into a type of nihlist stereotype often projected on Pirsigs work. I understand it from an objective context of nothing is an absolute whole, but within our own ranks of Quality context, it takes on a different dynamic and becomes Nihlism, a point of view that asserts meaninglessness over betterness. I can understand why someone would choose an explanation in which life is meaningless over an explanation that asserts that life is nothing but meaningful and that is pain in ones life, the mistakes we have made the inadequacy we feel, it's easier to deal with if there is no meaning to it, but if betterness is introduced, then there is some accountability for your actions and that can be very painful. -Ron Thanks -Ron ----- Original Message ---- From: Andre Broersen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 4:49:10 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Betternes - 4 levels of! Dmb: If Ant makes a distinction between Quality and value, I strongly suspect the interesting part would be the "why" and the "what for". Andre: Agreed dmb and point taken. I'm off to La Palma for a break. Computer stays home, 'The Writings of William James' A Comprehensive Edition by McDermott in the bag. Cheers Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
