Arlo, old friend. I wonder if you'd mind quoting the source on this. I've racked my library and scoured Lila, ZAMM and all the writings of Pirsig within my grasp, but nowhere is dmb mentioned in the holy writ. Perhaps the apocrypha then?
[Arlo] > Since Pirsig seems able to understand from DMB's writing that DMB has a > deep and firm grasp of his ideas, do you think maybe the problem is on your > end? I mean, when Pirsig points out that DMB is one of the foremost > philosophers of the MOQ, and YOU think his understanding of it is shallow, > wouldn't this lead a normal person to think that maybe its in them that the > problem lies? > I've heard the claim myself, by others whom I trust, so I'll take y'all's word for it, but in my experience, I'd have to side with Marsha. Nothing dave has produced on this forum so far has impressed me much. Maybe he said some things at one time that were real important and impressive, but I've yet to witness any cause for such enthusiasm. But on the other hand, ya gotta appreciate his enthusiasm for Pirsig and James and his devotion to the cause... so there's that. But Quality in thought and expression? Not so much. > > I am not about to pulled deeper into your carnival mirror, Marsha, its > evident that you have unrelenting hostility towards DMB, and that no matter > what explanations or evidence he offers, you dismiss it before it even > appears. I have seen him try repeatedly, in lengthy posts, to explain things > to you and you simply pretend like it never happens. This is a psychological > issue, not an intellectual one. > I tend to examine such questions in the light of social patterns, rather than framing them as psychological, but that's probably quibbling with terms because most of our psychological drives, our emotions, have to do with group acceptance, rejection or battles to win allies and defeat enemies. Even intellectual battles take on that socialized patina, as a veteran of faculty meetings such as yourself, could surely attest. I could go into this deeper. Lord know I love to intellectually analyze social patterns. Do it all the time, but it always seems to get me in trouble with my friends. And I've found something I very much treasure on this list - friends! So I'll refrain for now. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
