[John] It's interesting tho, isn't it Arlo. Now we can see where the Shia and the Sunni started fighting. Where the differing schools of Buddhism arose. We get to observe and participate in the pattern which interprets the found and breaks into factions. Fascinating indeed.
[Arlo] I think this is (mostly) a healthy process. If everyone agreed, evolution (of ideas) would stop. Disagreement is the sand in the oyster that produces the pearl. Until demonizing overtakes reasoned debate, and both sides start firing rocket launchers at the other (and not metaphorical ones). Let's hope we are not at the schism of future global violence that pits one nation's armies (those believing intellect!=SOM) against another nation (those believing intellect=SOM). [John] I'd definitely admit he's not just "one voice". I guess I'd call him, THEE voice. [Arlo] I was pointing towards Bakhtin's notions on ventriloquation, which I think is a very strong and useful metaphor, but yes, within this particular discourse community (or discourse narrative) Pirsig is indeed a "keystone species". I'm not sure if you were part of a related discussion I had on this with Matt, but anything I could add has already been said better in his brilliant essay, so as I did recently to Mark, I'll point you towards this (in case you haven't already read it). http://www.moq.org/forum/Kundert/pirsiginstitutionalized/pirsiginstitutionalized.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
