Mark, sorry, I must have missed this one, Tim On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:29:54 -0800, "118" <[email protected]> said: > Hi Tim, > Any path must provide some kind of reasoning. Any leading would result > if > we agree with such reasoning. So don't worry about that. The purpose of > metaphysics is indeed to create a structure of understanding. As Pirsig > rightly says, such structure cannot encompass the whole and may be > misleading to some. The structure does provide something to discuss. > One > can enter into the world of spirituality where things must be felt rather > than objectivized. Even such a path requires structure. So, yes, words > do > have a way of diminishing. This is only true however, if the words are > seen > as the object itself. There are ways of describing a beautiful painting > which does not mean the painting is the words. This is accepted. The > same > thing can be accepted in metaphysics. Words are descriptions to convey a > personal understanding. They cannot be more than that. If such personal > understanding is agreed upon by many it becomes known as truth. It is > here > we must not go. > > I fully understand Pirsig's difficulty with metaphysics. Every > metaphysician recognizes this. Keeping it simple is one solution, but > that > has its limits in terms of growth and mainstreaming the concept. Math is > just an adventure, it does not create reality but gives ways of > conversing > about it. > > > [Tim] > > > > [Tim] > > Again, I am focusing on the HOW? So yes, "how these two interact..." > > indeed! > > > > [Mark] > One approach I have considered is to take Quality out of the equation. > In > physics this is also done when Reality is taken out of the equation. For > example when describing the equality of energy and matter as Einstein > does, > he is not concerned with reality, but only how energy and matter equate > within in it. Einstein does not propose how energy becomes matter, he > just > states that it is possible. > > If we assume that dynamic and static quality are the same thing (Quality) > but interchange in appearance to us humans, a similar approach to > Einstein's > could be envisioned. That is, that there are equations that relate the > two. > These equations must be formed with concepts which are not as well > defined > as energy or the speed of light squared (a constant), but can be done. I > am > still working on that based on what I read in these posts. Perhaps I > will > look like an idiot to others with my attempts. So be it, I am willing to > take that chance just to get feedback. > > Mark > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > -- > > > > [email protected] > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html -- [email protected]
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