Hi Steve, I guess I suffer from the same defects. Dynamic quality is meant to be kept secret, like something godlike by those in the know. This is not suitable for a metaphysics, in my opinion. I suppose if you don't describe it, then you can never be debated on it. Reading a poem is full of Quality, even if it takes time to reach you intellect (several hundredths of a millisecond), because when it does, it is still expressed as Quality, not as something different. This whole notion of a time lag comes from the science of physiology. It tries to make what we sense somewhat mysterious and powerful. Creating a word and releasing it from your mouth is dynamic quality in action, nothing less. I am curious why rational people need to subscribe to the irrational to make a rational argument. Sure, everything is made up, but that is a given; the sun makes up its light, so what?
Mark > Steve: > I am just as incorrigible or perhaps as dense as Matt is on this > issue. I can't see why the negative quality of a hot stove is any more > pure or direct than the quality of a poem or a verbal insult. And I > don't think that Pirsig means to say so, even though he may too easily > be read that way. What Pirsig wants to say is that Quality comes > first. The static quality that is recognized as rocks, or trees, or > words is derived from that Quality experience. But words don't have > any lower ontological or epistemological status than do sunsets. A > poem isn't any less pure than a sunset. Knowledge of each is both > purely derived from Quality and equally secondary. The experience of > each is pure Quality and equally primary. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
