My point with the three classes of Quality is that sometimes it isn't the right SHAPE of the tool that fixes the problem. Sometimes it is the AMOUNT of tools that is the problem. As in the 1879 Boer War in the disaster at Isandhlwana where a shortage of screwdrivers, delaying the opening of ammunition boxes, enabled the Zulus to destroy most of the South Wales Borderers. (They had only 4 but needed maybe 100 to win the game, reality divided by desire, 4 divided by 100 gives 0.04 Quality which is closer to zero than 1)

The third aspect is as the event of quality that is needed to fix the screw is a combination of your hands and your skill. The EFFECT, the result or the value of this event, of this combination applied to the screw.

If all three has quality, you will make it. Good timing is crucial.

I can see that there is some confusion as usual, One talks about if there ARE tools, another speaks about WHAT tool. The third isn't sure that it will WORK. Different conditions and mathematics. All three are different but must be there together at the same time to make a happy ending.

Classic discussion is about HOW to do it and what objective circumstances is needed to do it.

Romantic discussion is about if it suits your reputation.

Don't worry, be happy.

JA



[email protected] skrev 2010-12-01 11.08:
Right Mark.  These guys must never have done any actual motorcycle
maintenance.  It's called  an "easy-out" and it has a backwards spiraling
twist which grabs the torn head of any screw and with force applied backs
out stuck screws, easy as pie.

Sometimes, you just gotta have a bigger tool box is all.  Most of the time
on the jobsite, guys come to me because I have the collection of weird but
useful tools that carpenters don't usually carry.  The greater the
community, the more tools at one's disposal.

Is all I've been trying to say.

John

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:07 PM, 118<[email protected]>  wrote:

>  Hi Andre,
>  My point was that SOM is not a stuck screw with its slot torn.  It is the
>  screwdriver that is being used to remove the defective screw, it won't
>  work.
>    As such, dmb's analogy was incomplete.  We do not need to drill SOM out,
>  that would be impossible.  It is just the wrong tool for some uses.
>
>  Capisci?
>
>  Mark
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