Hi Mark,
I am thinking of the Ultimate Truth as the Buddhist's Emptiness, or the MoQ's Quality, a Dynamic Quality empty of patterns. Marsha On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:45 AM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > In my opinion, there is no ultimate truth in MOQ, there is Quality. > > Mark > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> And that is why it is said, I suppose, and it seems to me, >> the way to approach the Ultimate Truth is by discovering >> what is false. >> >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:08 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: >> >>> Yes, perfect , Marsha, bulls eye's. >>> LILA is our mirror. >>> >>> 2010/12/5 MarshaV <[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> Greetings: >>>> >>>> I still think the best understanding of REALITY is found in Lila's >>>> words(LILA, Chapter 14): "...I'm whatever your questions turn me into. You >>>> don't see that. It's your questions that make me who I am. If you think I'm >>>> an angel then that's what I am. If you think I'm a whore then that's what I >>>> am. I'm whatever you think. And if you change your mind about me then I >>>> change too. So whatever Richard tells you, it's true. There's no way he can >>>> lie about me." - Reality is whatever you think it is (your patterns), >>>> there's no way you can lie about it, and if you change your understanding >>>> of >>>> reality, then reality changes too. >>>> >>>> >>>> Here are something by David Bohm that says the same thing: >>>> >>>> "Reality is what we take to be true. What we take to be true is what we >>>> believe. What we believe is based upon our perceptions. What we perceive >>>> depends upon what we look for. What we look for depends on what we think. >>>> What we think depends on what we perceive. What we perceive determines >>>> what we believe. What we believe determines what we take to be true. What >>>> we take to be true is our reality." >>>> >>>> (Mathieu Ricard & Trinh Xuan Thuan, 'The Quantum and the Lotus: A >>>> Journey to the Frontiers Where Science and Buddhism Meet',p.121) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
