Greetings Mark, And once the 'being trapped' is discovered, realizing there is this precious opportunity to cultivate selflessness in spite of a overwhelming habit of selfishness.
Marsha On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:10 PM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > Buddha saw the path to enlightenment by putting suffering at the core > of his philosophy. This is not the only way to go about it, but an > effective one. Nobody wants to suffer, and Buddha's notion rang true > with many. What could be more motivating than to stop suffering? > > I see it as many paths, Buddhism being one of them. It is a useful > structure, but takes a lot of discipline and devotion. It doesn't > come naturally to many, and so alternatives are appropriate. I agree > that selflessness is much more healthy than selfishness. One creates, > the other destroys. Since we only look through one pair of eyes, it > would seem that selfishness comes first and selflessness must be > cultivated. It is a process of seeking liberation, but one must first > conceive of being trapped. One creates the other. > > Mark > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:26 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I see. The Buddhist emphasis on a strategy to end suffering by >> seeing things as they really are and developing compassion >> would be the better approach. Nursing the ego is not? >> >> >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:50 AM, 118 wrote: >> >>> Yes, there are happy drugs of course. But this whole notion of >>> creating a structure for how we think and behave I find ridiculous. >>> How can one person tell another how they are thinking? It is all >>> projection. It is also a spiritual dead end. It cannot survive the >>> inner nature of man. It completely blocks growth of any kind. >>> >>> Certainly the aspect of confessionals at a psychiatrists office >>> followed by advice are useful, but this massive academic explanation >>> of the way things are in our heads is nonsense. This was already done >>> thousands of years ago. Now we claim it is science therefore we must >>> abide by it. Baloney. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:46 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Mostly pill pushers, but not all. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:44 PM, 118 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Marsha, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, open in a way, but very directed by the concept of psychology. >>>>> This is a construct that is used to control and confuse. In today's >>>>> world it is very prevalent, and our saviors are now psychologists. >>>>> What a racket! >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:46 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean. My point was the influence of Eastern >>>>>> thought. James seems to have been open to new ideas and quite >>>>>> dynamic. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 11:53 PM, 118 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Marsha, >>>>>>> Yeah, James was pretty smart until he got into psychology. Then he >>>>>>> just became another hack. What a waste. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:21 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Buddhism planted the seeds in James: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James's biography clearly states he had read and reread >>>>>>>> Upanishad and Buddhist texts, texts that belonged to his >>>>>>>> father. This would have been around 1870. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's a list of some of the books: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Modern Buddhist - Alabaster >>>>>>>> Religion des Buddha (Vol.1) - Koeppen >>>>>>>> Le Buddhisme - Taine >>>>>>>> Weltauffas der Buddhisten - Bastian >>>>>>>> Brahma Somej: Four Lectures - Sen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (William James: In the Maelstrom of American Modernism >>>>>>>> by Robert D. Richardson) ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
