Hi Mark, You're a wise man, Charlie Brown, i.e., Mark, as noted below.:
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Horses statement (cut) sounds more like a paradox to refute an > argument. This was popular amongst the Sophists so he is certainly in > character for MOQ. However, by saying something is undefinable one is > defining it as a category of thing. We have the definable on one > side, and the ineffable on the other. > Platt Ah yes, the limits of critical thinking vs."real understanding," as expressed in . . . One impulse from a vernal wood May teach you more of man, Of moral evil and of good, Than all the sages can. --- William Wordsworth > Mark > For me, to say it is undefinable, means that we haven't tried hard > enough yet. We make up Quality, and then can't define it (yet). So > here is where approximation comes into effect with the use of > analogies. No analogy will be perfect, several are better than one, > and analogies can contradict other analogies. There is no problem > with contradiction, since we are working outside the standard methods > of logic. We have to. Logic has a beginning, and expands from that. > What happens if the beginning cannot be encompassed by Truth? Well > that is where MOQ is. Buddhism has plenty of analogies. > > Platt Not only working outside of logic, but of concepts. Mark > Everything in our creation has to start with an assumption. You have > made one with Absolute Essence. I think that is great. The point of > a metaphysics is, what can it do for us? If your Essence provides > great meaning for you, you have accomplished your goal. If others > join you, even better since there is company in numbers. To try to > pin one ontology down as more correct is a personal experience. > > Platt Rarely do we see and argument that opens with the simple statement: "This is my starting point, my initial premise, and it could be wrong." One of the strengths of Ham's philosophy is the clarity of its premises. . > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
