On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:22 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 07/12/2010 15:13, Platt Holden wrote: > > > >> Pirsig > >> "As far as I know the MOQ does not trash SOM. It contains the SOM > within > >> a > >> larger system." > >> > > > [Platt] > > Again Pirsig: > > "You can't have box 'A' (the MOQ) contain within itself box 'B' > (intellectual level) which in turn contains box 'A.' (the MOQ). That's > whacko. (Parens added.) > > Bo's SOL is right. > > Ron: > First off, in this context those two quotes contradict each other. > > Following what he said: > "SOM is embedded in a larger system" > But then he says: > "You can't have box A (MoQ) contain within itself box B (SOM)" > > especially if SOM is the intellectual level. > > By Bo's interpretation: > > > "You can't have box 'A' (the MOQ[Reality]) contain within itself box 'B' > (intellectual level[SOM]) which in turn contains box 'A.' (the > MOQ[Reality). > That's > whacko. (Parens added.) > > By Bo's own interpretation he also violates the "container logic" > and things dont quite add up. > > But you see if we follow what Pirsigs states in the first quote above, > about how SOM being embedded in a larger system, it makes no > sense in the light of Bo's interpretation or the point you are trying > to make. > > You guys can never explain yourselves past interpretations of > Pirsig quotes which always conflict with eachother once examined. > > Meaning is usually derrived from consistancy and SOL lacks > consistancy in interpretation. > > I understand that reality is whatever you want it to be > and in your reality Bo is right, for no other reason than > you want him to be right. > > lets just be honost > > Try explaining it without Pirsig quotes > Try using your own reasons Platt The "larger system" equals "Box A" in the Pirsig quotes. No contradiction. Without Pirsig quotes the explanation is simple: -- An eye cannot directly see itself. . > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
