Mark,

Maybe I've wasted your time with my two statements, which at 
best are personal trivia.  I made no proclamation of Truth.  You 
seem a very interesting man with very dynamic ideas.  


Cheers to you,   
Marsha




On Dec 20, 2010, at 12:06 PM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> Interesting.  Personally I do not see how a religion would detract
> from mysticism.  If anything it would seem to promote it.  Religion is
> a true metaphysics, it has many guises.  The explanations of religion
> are from the heart, not from the brain.  When the brain gets involved,
> it makes religions seem silly.  Perhaps it is the brain that is being
> silly.  Creating all those artificial colors with star pictures is
> more like a painting.
> 
> We still look up into the sky and wonder, it is a human thing to do.
> We can wonder at the rippling of a pond, or at a 3-D movie.  They are
> all the same thing.  Putting names to things seems to take the wonder
> away from some people, but even that process is one of wonder.
> 
> Personally, I am not a big fan of the Hubble premise of an expanding
> universe.  It is based on evolution, and the need for some kind of
> beginning.  That the universe has always existed and in continually in
> flux makes more sense to me.  This way one does not have to get stuck
> in these time paradoxes.  But we generate ideas to fit things into our
> comfort level.  The mystical is another such comfort level.  It is
> great how we adapt, a wonder in itself.
> 
> I am a big fan of astrology since I believe in the power of gravity on
> our awareness.  Juxtapositions with the stars is as reasonable as a
> juxtaposition with our next meal.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:11 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Not being a member of an organized religion, I do find the events in nature 
>> still mystical.  I like to celebrate seasonal events, and the full moons and 
>> Sabbats seem the right place to remember that connection in a more formal 
>> way.
>> 
>> The arrogance of science is sometimes amusing, at least the public-relations 
>> portion.  But there are some truly beautiful offerings:
>> 
>> http://hubblesite.org/hubble_discoveries/hubble_deep_field/
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 20, 2010, at 1:07 AM, 118 wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> 
>>> Thanks I'll check that out.
>>> 
>>> Hey, to take a break from Astrology, I also found this in the same 
>>> newspaper:
>>> 
>>> "550 million year old oxygen enzyme explains animal life explosion."
>>> 
>>> Now we do not have to worry about that one any more...
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:45 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>          Tomorrow night:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            For Pagans the full moon and Winter Solstice are powerful, 
>>>> spiritual times.  This year the two have converged in an even more dynamic 
>>>> way.  Not only will there be a full moon on Winter Solstice, but there 
>>>> will also be a total eclipse!
>>>> 
>>>>            There were full moons on Winter Solstice in 1980 and 1999 but 
>>>> the moon has not been eclipsed on winter solstice for almost four 
>>>> centuries.  The last time this occurred, according to NASA, was in 1638 
>>>> and it won’t happen again until 2094.  The eclipse in 2094, however, won’t 
>>>> be visible to the western hemisphere.
>>>> 
>>>>            Don’t be confused by dates by looking for this rare occurrence 
>>>> on the night of the solstice, December 21st.  The eclipse will occur in 
>>>> the early morning hours.  The eclipse will begin a little after 1:00 AM in 
>>>> the morning on December 21st.  For exact times look here.
>>>> 
>>>>            The powerful symbology of the divine masculine (the sun) 
>>>> covering and converging with the divine feminine (the moon) on the Winter 
>>>> Solstice needs no explanation.  It speaks volumes of how to celebrate this 
>>>> rare and powerful celestial convergence.  If you are already feeling the 
>>>> pull as this convergence grows nearer it likely is NOT your imagination!  
>>>> The Goddess as Luna has drawn her lover, the God as Sol, to her on this 
>>>> momentous occasion.  In these hard times of a bitter winter and an even 
>>>> more bitter economy let us all pray this is a sign of fruitfulness in the 
>>>> year to come.
>>>> 
>>>>            Gather with friends or lovers and witness this beautiful and 
>>>> awe-inspiring spectacle.  Dress warm and stay warm.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            Blessings to all...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.examiner.com/paganism-in-atlanta/winter-solstice-full-moon-eclipse
>>>> 
>>>> 
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