Hey Magnus, Well ever since gmail made changes in it's system, people keep getting shuffled off to my spam box. Mary recently, and now you too.
So... I guess that sorta helps with the "noise level", anyway. Happy New Year to you. Hope my noisemakers at midnight weren't too much bother. I always blow a conch shell but mostly what I hear around here (Nevada County "here" - not MD "here") is gunfire. John the adept skimmer On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Ian Glendinning <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Magnus, Horse, > > Certainly a more actively moderated forum is needed for the "difficult > stuff". A "noisy" MD list can be a good source of seeds (grains of > sand), but it's a poor place to develop ideas or progress arguments > (into pearls). > > (I've made suggestions on-list before and volunteered off-list to > Horse to help anyway he needs.) > > Ian > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Magnus Berg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Horse > > > > One option could be to relaunch the moderated MoQ Focus list. I'd be > > interested. Perhaps it doesn't even need to be moderated if we can't get > a > > decent list of moderators (and with decent, I mean quantity, not > quality). > > > > The noise level on MD is a tad too much for me to muster for very long at > a > > time. > > > > Magnus > > > > > > > > > > On 2011-01-03 19:58, Horse wrote: > >> > >> Hi Ian > >> > >> Happy New Year to you too - and to all the rest of you. > >> > >> I'm not making the term Reification taboo any more than I have made the > >> terms SOM or Intellect or Intellectual or similar terms taboo. They're > >> just words. > >> What I am doing though is killing the whole SOM as Intellect debate and > >> any avenues that lead towards it. Marsha's Reification is, from my point > >> of view, just another way of expressing that debate. > >> > >> Something else that I would like to see emerge in 2011 is a debate about > >> Politics and the MoQ. This is something that really hasn't occurred here > >> yet - I think the reasons are obvious - but maybe I will be able to > >> facilitate this during the coming year. > >> In case anyone is thinking of jumping in about here, could I please ask > >> you to hold on for a while (that's a polite request) as I would like to > >> make sure that the general level of debate is back to it's usual caustic > >> levels first! > >> > >> One thing that I have been putting a lot of thought into recently is how > >> to balance the right to speak freely with the right to be heard. > >> It's a tricky one - how do you balance the interests of those that don't > >> scream and shout the loudest with those that do? > >> Who upholds the rights of those who wish to have moderate and reasonable > >> debate? > >> > >> Hmmm! > >> > >> Horse > >> > >> > >> > >> On 03/01/2011 09:34, Ian Glendinning wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Horse, > >>> > >>> Glad to see MD is not a democracy, but as I've consistently said any > >>> good democracy has good regulation too. You have my support. > >>> > >>> One observation on the edict itself. The term reification cannot > >>> itself be made taboo (I hope, it has valid uses in our discussion - eg > >>> misplaced concreteness of named objects), but in this context, as a > >>> rhetorical cover for SOLAQI etc ... then the point is clear. > >>> > >>> Happy new year BTW, > >>> Ian > >> > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
