Hi Tuukka.

I'm a regular user of the knowledge database called Erowid.org
Not as a user , but with a big interest in effects of psychofarmaca.
I recognised the name and a posting on zolpidem , as foto.zolpidem
is known as hallucinant if abused, if i connect your name to 'drugs' as a
search term, i can find a zillion hits for Tuukka posting thingy's around
derived mainly from the erowid vaults.

I do not dissaprove experiments, but for myself, i live by the use of fresh
air and clear water solely, one exeption ,...Hamburgers, beer,French fries,
cheese,pie , etc..
Anyway welkom to the list,Mark will be delighted.
Adrie




2011/3/8 Tuukka Virtaperko <[email protected]>

> It would be rather simple to argue that the dynamic-static-division in MOQ
> is some sort of an informal application of Gödel's incompleteness theorems.
> According to these theorems, any sufficiently powerful logical system cannot
> prove it's own completeness unless it is inconsistent. And if a system
> cannot prove it's own completeness, there are statements in the system which
> cannot be proven true or false. Some sources (Wikipedia, "Gödel, Escher,
> Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid") claim that these statements are true but
> unprovable, but I'm under the impression that this is not the case. Instead,
> their truth value cannot be determined. If others are in doubt, I can
> investigate this further.
>
> What happens if you change "true" and "false" into "good" and "evil"? A
> "logical system" turns into an intellectual static value pattern, and an
> unprovable statement turns into an act whose moral value cannot be
> determined from within the system. And if the act is good, it is Dynamic
> Quality. This is MOQ. Right?
>
> -Tuukka
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