On Mar 13, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Dan Glover wrote: > >> Marsha: >> Except for the wish to become enlightened, the Buddha has said that >> desire is the source of all suffering. I suppose I needed to work this out >> for myself, because desire has culturally been labeled good. Maybe >> it is more about en-joying the moment. > > Dan: > I'd say that there is no enlightenment other than that which we > already have, so to wish for it is to wish for... what?
Marsha: Maybe a wish would be to have the vail of illusion lifted. > Looking at suffering, it seems that without it there would be no > evolution, no need for "betterment." Therefore, within the framework > of the MOQ, suffering is seen as the negative face of Quality. Yes, within the framework of the MoQ what you say is correct, but then that framework is an analogy. > Now, if desire were the source of all suffering, then the desire for > good food to eat and clean water to drink would make no sense. A > person could just as well eat out of garbage cans and drink from the > toilet. Of course we all know we'd soon sicken and die if we engaged > in such practices. Nourishing food and clean water are biological requirements. I was thinking more of desires of the social/intellectual type. > So some desires do not give rise to suffering but rather prevent it. > Wouldn't you agree? No. It's not so simple since I was raised, indoctrinated, to desire, and have had to unlearn many such habits. This might point back to having the vail of illusion lifted. > Thank you, > > Dan Thank you. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
