J-A,

I still recall with fondness a posting way back when you posited Quality as
knowing when you have "just enough".  Mirrors of mirrors we use, how can we
know when to stop?


On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Jan-Anders <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well John
>
> I just have to answer this. In my opinion, Quality works as the surface of
> a 3D sphere made up of three independent forces, One for amount, mass,
> energy and like. One for Patterns, logic connections and algebra. The third
> is for the value of the combined patterned energy, the value to other
> processes made up of energy and pattern.
>
> Quality is measuring them and the sum of the three is making up the vector
> of desire. Just imagine for example that you are thirsty. The amount of
> water in your body is of a bad value. Your body is ok but maybe you feel a
> bit uncomfortable with the air in the room.
> You choose to drink first and then change your situation by going out for a
> while. Every change is affecting the sum of the quality and the trick is to
> choose the next step.
>
> This vector is the same as the desire discussed in some other recent
> thread.
>
> Best Quality is 1 or when the sum of the three makes a perfect sphere, not
> to little and not too much in any direction.
>
> Jan-Anders
>
> "Round things are boring".  Calvin Schenkel
>
>
>  [John]
>> This issue dates way, way back to a problem I had with the conflation
>> of two different connotations of the word Quality.  Is it a line?  Or a
>> vector?
>> According to you, and dmb way back then, and according to you now -
>> the whole MoQ, it's a line.  According to me and Platt, it's a vector.
>>  Quality
>> is a direction, rather than merely differentiation.
>>
>> [Arlo]
>> Hope you are feeling better.
>>
>> I can't speak for DMB, but I don't think Quality is a "line", maybe
>> if you want a geometric analogy is more like a "field". The problem I
>> have with "direction" is that its entirely anthropomorphic (if not
>> tinged solipstic). I remember a Calvin and Hobbes strip where Calvin
>> deduced that he was the pinnacle of evolution by realizing that
>> everything that has ever happened in history happened for the sole
>> purpose of producing him. Since he exists, the "logic" goes, it must
>> be that everything happened with the goal of producing his existence.
>>
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