Hi , Dan.

Mainly because i'm working with Japanese coordinators on the Honda
plant here,and because i'm a bit familiar with their culture,i tought i did
recognise awareness of their still living Bushido code of conduct.
You where aware of this when you wrote this ....


"Take the Katrina disaster in New Orleans as an example: Rather than
doing something to help themselves, most New Orleans residents
affected by the hurricane seemed to sit and wait, expecting someone
else (the government) to help them. There were surges in lootings and
crime. Bitchings and moanings were heard throughout the city: "why us,
why us". Still now, years later, many homes there are sitting empty
and a third of the city's residents are gone, relocated at government
expense and probably still living off government aid.

In Japan, not so. Rather than sitting around waiting for help, the
residents are already busy cleaning and rebuilding their homes... even
elderly people. There are no reports of looting. No one taking
advantage of the situation for their own gain. They're helping one
another out in any way they can. One elderly couple when interviewed
said they were hurrying to clean and restore their own home so that
they could then help others do the same. No one is asking "why us, why
us". They are simply getting on with it."

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(Adrie)
but i came sure about it after your last post to JA, writing this..

"That's interesting. I just read a historical novel called The Thousand
Autumns of Jacob de Zoet which concerns Japan back in the late 1700s
and the interactions of Dutch traders there in search of riches.
Conversations between the Japanese and Dutch were always started by
reciting the ancestry of the Shogun with whom they were dealing... the
social standing, in other words.

The novel depicted a very harsh moral code. Women were virtual slaves,
most men too. To buck the code meant certain death. I would imagine
the cultural mores today are perhaps a blend of those times with more
modern Western morals. But I do understand that it is one of the most
honest countries in the world. Dishonesty brings misfortune upon the
whole family, from what I understand, so it is virtually unheard of."

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The Bushido code,unwritten mostly...
Allow me to make an addition,a very tiny one.

I did not read the Thousand Autumns, because i know the story's.
The addition is, that the Dutch traders, as 'Gajin' (strangers), had no
rights after some time to
set foot on the mainlands of Japan, they had the obligation to conduct their
business
on an island in front of the mainland.
Their presence was unacceptable, their goods were welcome.

Long time ago "Shogun" with Richard Chaimberlain was broadcasted here(1980),
a series
that was of a stunning historical quality, it was nearly reality.
Nearly all historical details were worked out perfectly,.."Anjin-San" he was
named in the series.
So if you are interested in the Bushido code, its written in by not writing
it in.

If i observe the previous interaction with Dmb,..i think your mind framed
the
questions you made , back into the old times,"were did it go", why are
people here
just sitting around to wait,...if i frame it back in the time of the early
settlers, the pioneers,
Davy Crockett, how the west was won,...they had the same spirited, sparkling
will to succeed, alone, and in group, individuals acting towards the same
goals.

You are seeking what went wrong since Davy Crocket,the founding fathers,the
Appoloprogram, Chuck Yeager,...you are seeking were the tought, the striven
of Quality
was left behind...because you are aware of the fact that Japan is Quality
driven.


Thx for the Fema-link.
We have something similar since 5 years, flooding happens all the time here
in the lowlands.
Its a habbit.





2011/3/18 Dan Glover <[email protected]>

> Hello everyone
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > My heart is aching for the people in Japan.  I don't get the hype from
> > television, but I have been paying attention to events posted on the
> > Internet, and it is all awful beyond words.  It is so awful it is hard to
> > believe it is really happening, yet I know it is.  The question 'Why?'
> > sticks in my throat and I choke.  It is unbearably awful.
>
> Hi Marsha
>
> Like you I don't have cable tv so I've been following the unfolding
> disaster in Japan via the Internet. What strikes me most is how
> differently the Japanese culture handles such catastrophes as compared
> to our own.
>
> Take the Katrina disaster in New Orleans as an example: Rather than
> doing something to help themselves, most New Orleans residents
> affected by the hurricane seemed to sit and wait, expecting someone
> else (the government) to help them. There were surges in lootings and
> crime. Bitchings and moanings were heard throughout the city: "why us,
> why us". Still now, years later, many homes there are sitting empty
> and a third of the city's residents are gone, relocated at government
> expense and probably still living off government aid.
>
> In Japan, not so. Rather than sitting around waiting for help, the
> residents are already busy cleaning and rebuilding their homes... even
> elderly people. There are no reports of looting. No one taking
> advantage of the situation for their own gain. They're helping one
> another out in any way they can. One elderly couple when interviewed
> said they were hurrying to clean and restore their own home so that
> they could then help others do the same. No one is asking "why us, why
> us". They are simply getting on with it.
>
> Why are there such differences?
>
> I think it may have something to do with how we in the West are
> socially conditioned to the desire to possess value rather than
> realizing that that is impossible... rather, value possesses us. It
> struck me in my recent conversation with Ham (and in past
> conversations with Platt) that the desire to possess value, the love
> of money if you will, is indeed the source of all suffering.
>
> This is quite foreign to me personally. In the past I shrugged it off
> as inconsequential... that most people didn't feel that way. But more
> and more, I am seeing that our Western culture is infected far more
> deeply with this sickness (and it is a sickness, though of social
> significance rather than biological) than is the East. It is this
> negative face of Quality that we tend to mistake for better.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dan
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