Hi Joe,

OK, fine by me.

Mark

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Mark nd all,
>
> I prefer to see emotions as a level in evolution.  Since they are
> indefinable, in a DQ/SQ metaphysical division they can only be DQ.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 4/13/11 8:49 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> Ideas are emotions put to language.  This is the impact of the
>> societal level on our individual level.  We do not put ideas to words
>> unless we want to communicate them.   This is one of the errors that
>> are made in equating so much with static quality.  It only becomes
>> static when one puts it to words and enters into the social level.
>> Otherwise words are not necessary.  Most of our thoughts are wordless,
>> and as such it is hard to differentiate them from what you call
>> emotions.
>>
>> Only a small fraction of our thoughts are brought to the attention
>> level, and this is for societal or communication purposes.  Most
>> thoughts reside in what you may call emotions.  What would you call an
>> idea that has no words?  Perhaps such a thing does not make sense to
>> you, but at least think about it.
>>
>> I have no problem with your abstraction of the emotional level, but
>> perhaps I don't see it the same way that you do.  Most ideas are
>> emotions.  They happen before you place attention on them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> Ideas are not emotions.  To deny the emotional level in evolution DQ/SQ
>>> makes definition a metaphysical principle rather than the more comprehensive
>>> evolution in existence.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/12/11 4:13 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>> While you are longing DQ, I am living it.  Your clown tears streak your
>>>> face.
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2011, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dan and All
>>>>>
>>>>> As I read your response to Arlo, I am in tears.  The longing for the MOQ
>>>>> that is contained within your words is breathtaking.  DQ/SQ, the longing 
>>>>> is
>>>>> DQ, no way to define it.  I wish, in some way, that evolution could be
>>>>> explored with the same reverence for Pirsig's endeavors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>
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