Hey Mark, What goes around, comes around. You butt in on Ham, and now I'm butting in on you!
I know you won't mind. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:40 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Ham, > Just came to this one. Musta come in while I was doodling away. Just > thought I would be obnoxious and jump right in. See if I can rattle > your cage a bit. > > > > [Ham] > > Wouldn't you then say that the "judgmental type" of goodness is the only > > goodness we can know? And how would you say we know it? > > [Mark unceremoniously butting in] > No, I wouldn't say that, but I guess you already know that. > John ceremoniously butting in: "goodness we can know" is the key point here Mark. And I think Ham is right. However, knowing something implies it exists outside of us, and there I think Ham is wrong. He places it solely in our experience, whereas in order for it to be in our experience, it plainly must exist outside of our experience in order for us to be able to get to know it. > > > [Mark] > Ineffable only means undefinable, Like "I got that Ineffable > FEELING..., everything's going my way". OK, Ham. Let's take a > beautiful woman (I really must be a lesbian). Now, we have your > opinion on her, and we have here opinion on herself. Which one is the > Best (or Betterest) one? You know that it is her own opinion. John: Oops! Wrong again! It is the perception of others that is the most important and "best" guide to future experience. After all, if a woman thinks of herself as ugly, but everyone else thinks she is beautiful - it is her beauty in the eyes of her beholders which will control her fate. Mark: > > Where do you think we GET concepts from, by the way? We can't make > them up, pull them out of a vacuum, pluck them from the stars, or pull > them out of a hat. We can only translate into Humaneze what is > already there. We cannot create something out of nothing, remember? > John: Touche! Take that, Ham. ok, let's call it a draw. Or an even match. > > [Mark] > Match-maker Match-maker make me a match. Just tell them it is all > emotioellect. Back to driving now! John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
