Reverend Ham,
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Ham Priday <[email protected]> wrote: > > Father Mark -- > > > >> If God is hidden, does that mean that he can get you at any time? >> Watch out!! How can something be hidden yet have such an impact. >> Are you speaking of hidden from the eyes? It is certainly not hidden >> from the Self. >> >> I am in the process of commercializing some God glasses (call them >> G(squared) which will display him prominently. I'll send you a pair >> when I am done. They REALLY work. But don't take my word for it, >> you will soon see if you stick with this forum. Now, if you want to take >> the trouble, Zen is another way to see God. And, as you know, my >> God is not a detached man in the clouds. In fact it is not detached at >> all. Such is the power of Quality. > > Sort of an "I was blind, but now I see" scenario, eh? Billy Graham would be > proud! [Mark] That is of course my dream, to make Billy proud! > [Ham] > Seriously, Mark, do you feel you have direct contact with God or the "spirit > world" and tangible evidence to support it? If so, many folks out there > whose belief is based on faith alone would be only too eager to hear from > you. You might even become the Western World's new prophet, responsible for > converting millions of agnostics and atheists to theism. [Mark] Seriously, Yes. You speak of tangible evidence of the spiritual world. Of course that exists, just look around you. No faith needed, just bump into a tree. Tangible evidence indeed. I will present such evidence with the oft used analogy of gravity. I would ask you: Does gravity exist? Do you have tangible evidence that gravity exists? Well, of course you do. Can you point to gravity? Where is gravity apart from what it acts on? Is gravity in the spiritual world? Again, by analogy, of course it is. All we have for proof is the appearance of what gravity does. We cannot point and say "there's gravity". All we can say is that "there must be gravity for things to appear as they do". Got-it Grasshopper? As you well know, I am against all leaders and all followers. In fact, I am "anti-Guru". The worst thing I can imagine is having to fulfill such a role. I cannot convert anybody, all conversion comes through self-realization. There are many paths to Essence. You choose which one suits you the best. I will dump a bucket of cold water on you now and again to see if your path gets muddy. > [Mark previously] >> Oh, I forgot, I was going to avoid using the "G" word since it seems >> to annoy and distract some into a rant (and rave) of some kind. So, >> instead of the word God, replace it with Essence. > [Ham] > (You haven't by any chance been talking to our friend Tim lately, have you?) [Mark] Tim? (heh, heh). The last off-line post I remember started with "bear with me, I am kind of drunk..." No, I don't drink very often, it takes me away from the moment. You could say that I am addicted to moderation. Now Quality Juice, well that is my one exception. Can't get enough of it! I will give you with a quote from the Moody Blues to help you from taking the wrong path: "Breathe deep the gathering gloom, Watch lights fade from every room. Bedsitter people look back and lament, Another day's useless energy spent. Impassioned lovers wrestle as one, Lonely man cries for love and has none. New mother picks up and suckles her son, Senior citizens wish they were young. Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white. But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion???" > > Good luck with the G-glasses, but I'd go easy on that Quality juice if I > were you. [Mark] Yes, I am trying to commercialize them. My posts are such a commercial. I am a Night in White Satin, if you will. > [Ham] > Best regards 'til you sober up, [Mark] 'till then, then. Yours, Mark > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Ham Priday <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey Joe -- >> >>> I always accepted that I am IGNORANT of absolute truth >>> since I have never felt INNOCENT. >> >>> "When I was a child I thought as a child. Now that I have >>> become a man I have put away the things of child." Becoming >>> an adult changes my outlook. >> >> "Innocent" is a term used by Meister Eckhart ('innocence of the soul', >> etc.) >> which is more appropriate than "ignorance" when it comes to Absolute Truth >> of which everyone is ignorant.. >> >> I'm happy to hear rhat you've attained adulthood, Joe, but I doubt that a >> child would be capable of understanding the hiddenness of God as a moral >> principle. (Apparently some intellectual adults can't either.) >> >> Thanks for trying, though. >> >> Cheers, >> Ham > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
