On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:06 PM, <craig...@comcast.net> wrote: > [Pirsig] > "To say that "A causes B" or to say that "B values > precondition A" is to say the same thing. The difference is one of words > only. Instead of saying "A magnet causes iron filings to move toward it," > you can say "Iron filings value movement toward a magnet." > > In "Iron filings value movement toward a magnet." What is B, what is > precondition A & what is precondition A > a precondition of? > If you can't even give an explanation of what your position means, it's time > to give it up.
In the quote I supplied Pirsig explains himself as well as I can imagine explaining anything. I strongly suspect that you are just trying to be a dick and succeeding as spectacularly as ever. A= magnet, B= iron filings. Instead of saying "A magnet [A] causes iron filings to move toward it [B]," you can say "Iron filings [B] value movement toward a magnet [A]." I don't see how that could be made any more clear. Perhaps you should seek help from others by starting a new thread. Or you could stop being a dick and just say what your point is in quibbling about Pirsig's reformulation of causation. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
