[Pirsig] "To say that "A causes B" or to say that "B values precondition A" is to say the same thing. The difference is one of words only. Instead of saying "A magnet causes iron filings to move toward it," you can say "Iron filings value movement toward a magnet."
[Craig, previously] > In "Iron filings value movement toward a magnet." What is B, what is > precondition A & > what is precondition A a precondition of? [Steve] A= magnet, B= iron filings. Does not compute. "A causes B" would then be "magnet A causes iron filings B", which is not correct. (Iron filings are caused by a file working on a piece of iron.) [Steve] > Instead of saying "A magnet [A] causes iron filings to move > toward it [B]", you can say "Iron filings [B] value movement > toward a magnet [A]." But the use of A & B is inconsistent between these two formulations. "A causes B" is exemplified by "A (proximity of a magnet to iron filings) causes B (movement of the iron filings movement toward the magnet)". "Iron filings value movement toward a magnet" should be "In precondition A (proximity of a magnet to iron filings) the iron filings value B (movement of the iron filings toward the magnet)". Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html