p.s. Of course how it relates to the MoQ? The MoQ is so much a part of my thinking that it's like MoQ glasses. But then my vision has improved remarkably. Three parts MoQ and one part Buddhism --- with meditation on the side: a wonderful worldview.
On May 14, 2011, at 9:59 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Honestly, the 90 minute review made him seem like a nutcase. He's > called a genius so I am trying to stay open. Yes, he did change his > philosophy. Paul Strathern seem to think Wittgenstein was the only > philosopher EVER to admit his philosophy (the first) was wrong. That's > worth pondering. Strathern also said Wittgenstein's theory was to be > "The Final Solution" for philosophy, the end of it, over, kaput... > > Geez, Wagner was suppose to be an egotistical bastard, but a least > he left us with some of the greatest musical drama. I am curious to > see what Wittgenstein presented to humanity. Did you know he had > three brothers who committed suicide??? - But maybe I will lose > interest after a few chapters. Or maybe some of his ideas will be > appealing and other not so much. I am curious. > > > Marsha > > > > > > On May 14, 2011, at 9:40 AM, 118 wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> I am trying to remember which interpretations I got from the library >> last year. I did read that he changed his approach later on and >> treated language more like painting (my analogy). That is, he broke >> it up into specific works of art. >> >> I am curious what you find that relates to MoQ. >> >> Cheers >> Mark >> >> On Friday, May 13, 2011, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> H Mark, >>> >>> I've ordered 'Ludwig Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius' by >>> Ray Monk. >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 13, 2011, at 5:35 PM, 118 wrote: >>> >>>> What about Wiki? That seems to be the Bible of many. >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Friday, May 13, 2011, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ron, >>>>> >>>>> I've only read a limited amount on what he might have meant, accompanied >>>>> by some very interesting quotes. He was describe as a skeptic, and one >>>>> interested in the limitations of language. His name has been mentioned >>>>> with >>>>> that of Sextus Empiricus. I am looking for a book, a good introduction, >>>>> to >>>>> his philosophical ideas. If someone could suggest one for a wiggly to >>>>> read, >>>>> I would be appreciative. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 13, 2011, at 8:47 AM, X Acto wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, language is a means to an end, .....understanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> a useful tool. >>>>>> >>>>>> An explanation. >>>>>> >>>>>> I dont think he meant all language shoud be thrown away >>>>>> >>>>>> ================ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>> From: MarshaV <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 8:23:28 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] Bitterkeit und Besskeiten >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "My propositions are elucidatory in this way: he who understands me >>>>>> finally >>>>>> recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through them, on >>>>>> them, >>>>>> over them. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, after he has >>>>>> climbed up >>>>>> on it.)" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (Wittgenstein, Ludwig, 'Tractatus Logico-Philosphophicus', 6.54) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
