John to Andre: Many things cannot be defined, and yet they can be known.
Andre: Hi John, you have no argument with me about this at all. Perhaps my 'wording' was a bit awkward when I answered Joe regarding this issue on May 19: "Joe: Undefined does not mean unknown. Andre: True Joe, but I would prefer perhaps the expression; experienced but not defined. At some level you 'know' but it is impossible to assign any intellectual process to it that would 'capture' it. Any concepts or representation...other than by analogy... and that even leaves much to be desired." John: Known however can refer to things that we can't define, but yet we realize in some nebulous way. You must admit this, or Pirsig's key point - you can't define Quality but you can know it- is just completely ridiculous. Andre: As above John. It was not my intention to challenge this. I completely agree with you...and Pirsig of course. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
