Ah, so you have read the book.  :-)  Thanks Andre, for the clarifications.

John

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Andre Broersen <[email protected]>wrote:

> John to Andre:
>
>
> Many things cannot be defined, and yet they can be known.
>
> Andre:
> Hi John, you have no argument with me about this at all. Perhaps my
> 'wording' was a bit awkward when I answered Joe regarding this issue on May
> 19:
>
>
> "Joe:
> Undefined does not mean unknown.
>
> Andre:
> True Joe, but I would prefer perhaps the expression; experienced but not
> defined. At some level you 'know' but it is impossible to assign any
> intellectual process to it that would 'capture' it. Any concepts or
> representation...other than by analogy... and that even leaves much to be
> desired."
>
> John:
>
> Known however can refer to things that we can't define, but yet we realize
> in some nebulous way.  You must admit this, or Pirsig's key point  - you
> can't define Quality but you can know it- is just completely ridiculous.
>
> Andre:
> As above John. It was not my intention to challenge this. I completely
> agree with you...and Pirsig of course.
>
>
>
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