Hi Mark, The diatribe against "Yo mama" speaks to me in rough words. I did not know I was supposed to take sides in this discussion.
Joe On 5/25/11 5:11 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: > Well Joe, > > I can't speak for Ham's mother, but I do know that Yo mama so nasty > she made speed stick slow down. No, what I mean to say is Yo mama > twice the man you are. Actually, Yo mama house so small you have to > go outside to change your mind. > > Do you feel that Yo mama so old she was a waitress at the Last Supper, > or just that when she farted dust came out? > > Mark > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Ham and all, >> >> As I read your post impulses comes to the fore. I agree you can't envision >> an "emotional level" since there is no meaning in being a happy person since >> it demands a response to indefinable Joy. Do you feel your mother was >> inferior to you or just has no meaning in a universe? >> >> Joe >> >> On 5/24/11 9:25 PM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Tues, May 24, 2011 5:02 PM, "Joseph Maurer" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ham and all, >>>> >>>> Try to envision an emotional level in which the individual is indefinable >>>> (no terms capture the reality of individuality since it is indefinable). >>>> Once that vision is secure Posit a definable 1. This is how I see >>>> evolution from an indefinable DQ emotional level to a definable SQ >>>> intellectual level. The emotional level DQ defines 1 and evolution >>>> carries this 1 to an SQ Intellectual level which creates mathematical >>>> logic. >>> >>> I can't envision an "emotional level", as it has no meaning for me. >>> Emotions are what we feel in response to experience. It may be joy, >>> sadness, frustration, anxiety, doubt, love, hate, or desire. Do we need a >>> "level" for each of these feelings? Is there a "pain level" and a "distress >>> level", as well as a feelings level? There is no logic for this euphemism, >>> since feelings are simply the state of individual awareness at a given time, >>> just as intellection is the process of thinking rationally. >>> >>> You say individuality is indefinable. Why can it not be defined simply as >>> "the unit of awareness" whereby one identifies his knowing self? Indeed, >>> inasmuch as this is self-evident, why do we even need a definition? >>> >>> Your problem, Joe, is that you refuse to acknowledge "selfness"--the very >>> core of your existental reality. And, if you have no self, you can't be a >>> free agent, let alone lay claim to a life experience of your own. (Marsha >>> has somewhat the same problem). >>> >>> Furthermore, when you build your ontology on evolution (i.e., process in >>> time), you put the cart in front of the horse when it comes to the Source. >>> For if evolution "carries nature" from the lowest to the highest levels, >>> your Source comes at the end of this entire progression! How do you explain >>> a Creator coming onto the scene after all its creation is finished? How >>> logical is that scenario, Joe? >>> >>> Later, you added: "For me, evolution speaks to higher or lower values." >>> Evolution evidently "speaks to you" also, though at what particular level I >>> haven't the slightest idea. Until you realize that it is the individual who >>> determines what is of value, and to what degree or measure, you will never >>> appreciate the sensibility you've been granted as a human being. >>> >>> I can understand why metaphysical prepositions are sometimes regarded as >>> illogical. But I find it incredulous that an intelligent person such as >>> yourself can be persuaded that an "emotional level" defines unity. It makes >>> me wonder what you would make of epistemology. >>> >>> Thanks for a fascinating glimpse into the workings of your mind, >>> Ham >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
